From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264501AbTDPQyB (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:54:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264503AbTDPQx6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:53:58 -0400 Received: from coral.ocn.ne.jp ([211.6.83.180]:42483 "HELO smtp.coral.ocn.ne.jp") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S264501AbTDPQwV (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:52:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 02:04:13 +0900 From: Bruce Harada To: Timothy Miller Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: kernel support for non-English user messages Message-Id: <20030417020413.49af6390.bharada@coral.ocn.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <3E9D688F.5040204@techsource.com> References: <3E9D688F.5040204@techsource.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Suggestion: Chop your CCs. I sus pect Linus gave up on this topic a long time ago, as (most likely) have the majority of the others. On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:28:31 -0400 Timothy Miller wrote: > The Japanese are taught to read and write English as school children. > They also are taught how to write their own language in Romanji, which > is an adaptation of the Roman alphabet. No, they're not (taught to write Japanese in Romaji, that is). > How much you want to bet that > the Japanese use English when they write error messages? Well, it rather depends on the person... try setting your locale to ja_JP.eucJP, and you might be surprised by the applications that give you Japanese messages. Certainly, some Japanese people prefer messages in English, but that can hardly be generalized across the entire userbase. > Linus Torvalds isn't the first Finn I've encountered who speaks, reads, > and writes English impeccably. > > I've also never met a German who didn't speak English. > > When we have Asian vendors from various countries come visit where I > work, even the ones who need a translator speak English better than we > speak their language. My only answer is, you have only had the opportunity to meet people from overseas who have some English ability... really, your argument is on the same level as "I've got lots of foreign friends who all like , so all foreigners must like ." Bruce PS: I'm against translating kernel messages, but for technical reasons (simple == good) rather than some wild idea that everybody else in the world can understand English.