From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263635AbTDTRJM (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:09:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263636AbTDTRJM (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:09:12 -0400 Received: from mail.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.8]:15890 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263635AbTDTRJL (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:09:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:21:10 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: John Bradford Cc: john@grabjohn.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Are linux-fs's drive-fault-tolerant by concept? Message-Id: <20030420192110.1a457c2d.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <200304201712.h3KHCsBu000709@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> References: <20030420185512.763df745.skraw@ithnet.com> <200304201712.h3KHCsBu000709@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:12:54 +0100 (BST) John Bradford wrote: > > Can you tell me what is so particularly bad about the idea to cope a > > little bit with braindead (or just-dying) hardware? > > Nothing - what is wrong is to implement it in a filesystem, where it > does not belong. I know you favor a layer between low-level driver and fs probably. Sure it is clean design, and sure it sounds like overhead (Yet Another Layer). > > See, a car (to name a real good example) is not primarily built to have > > accidents. > > Stunt cars are built to survive accidents. All cars _could_ be built > like stunt cars, but they aren't. Well, I do really hope that my BMW is built to survive accidents, too. Because if it is not, I go and buy a Mercedes immediately. We are looking for passive safety stuff here, and if it _can_ make a difference to spend one buck more, then I will do ... Regards, Stephan