From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264139AbTDWRJX (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:09:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264126AbTDWRJW (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:09:22 -0400 Received: from pdbn-d9bb86a9.pool.mediaWays.net ([217.187.134.169]:57096 "EHLO citd.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264120AbTDWRJV (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:09:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:21:20 +0200 From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: Marc Giger , linux-kernel , pat@suwalski.net Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered. Message-ID: <20030423172120.GA12497@citd.de> References: <21660000.1051114998@[10.10.2.4]> <20030423164558.GA12202@citd.de> <1508310000.1051116963@flay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1508310000.1051116963@flay> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 09:56:03AM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > Actually, I agree with the submitter. Having the volume default to 0 > is stupid - userspace tools are all very well, but no substitute for > sensible kernel defaults. AFAIR ALSA always set the setting to zero. I can only guess why. My buest guess is that not all sound-configurations are the same, on some systems the "defaults" could much to loud. (e.g. waking the neigbours when you restart you computer at night) I can perfectly understand the ALSA-guys. It's a bit annoying, but nothing an init-script can't fix. -> Distro problem. (And i guess the "OSS-gab" was filled by the Distro) (Personally i use my own "S99misc" init-script which, apart from some other things, loads the sound-driver and then sets the mixer-levels.) Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous.