From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264227AbTDWVWq (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:22:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264230AbTDWVWq (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:22:46 -0400 Received: from almesberger.net ([63.105.73.239]:3334 "EHLO host.almesberger.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264227AbTDWVWp (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:22:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:34:13 -0300 From: Werner Almesberger To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer , Marc Giger , linux-kernel , pat@suwalski.net Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered. Message-ID: <20030423183413.C1425@almesberger.net> References: <21660000.1051114998@[10.10.2.4]> <20030423164558.GA12202@citd.de> <1508310000.1051116963@flay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1508310000.1051116963@flay>; from mbligh@aracnet.com on Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 09:56:03AM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Martin J. Bligh wrote: > Actually, I agree with the submitter. Having the volume default to 0 > is stupid - userspace tools are all very well, but no substitute for > sensible kernel defaults. You've obviously never been to a meeting/conference and booted a Linux notebook with a kernel that sets things to a non-zero default :-) If the default is to turn up also the microphone (and to enable it in the first place), you might notice that even apparently weak speakers are perfectly capable of producing a very LOUD alarm-like sound. And you'll have to sit through this until your user-mode utility loads and turns the mess off, while everybody is turning to stare at you. 0 is the only safe default setting. - Werner -- _________________________________________________________________________ / Werner Almesberger, Buenos Aires, Argentina wa@almesberger.net / /_http://www.almesberger.net/____________________________________________/