From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264440AbTDXGCz (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 02:02:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264443AbTDXGCy (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 02:02:54 -0400 Received: from holomorphy.com ([66.224.33.161]:27303 "EHLO holomorphy") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264440AbTDXGCy (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 02:02:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:15:00 -0700 From: William Lee Irwin III To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Flame Linus to a crisp! Message-ID: <20030424061500.GN8978@holomorphy.com> Mail-Followup-To: William Lee Irwin III , Linus Torvalds , Kernel Mailing List References: <20030424051510.GK8931@holomorphy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: The Domain of Holomorphy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:43:37PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > So I really want to set peoples _expectations_ right. I'd rather lose a > developer over a flame-war here on Linux-kernel as a result of this > discussion, than having somebody unhappy later on about having "wasted > their time" on a project that then allowed things to happen that that > developer felt was inherently morally _wrong_. > And this is where it touches upon kernel development. Not because I expect > to apply DRM patches in the near future or anything like that: but simply > because it's better to bring up the issue so that people know where they > stand, and not have the wrong expectations of how their code might be used > by third parties. Well, my walking out of computing is tied to complete prevention of kernel hacking on commodity hardware, so you've not lost anything yet. I only really care if it's no longer possible to get a commodity system to run Linux on at all, not about crypto dongles. -- wli