From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261760AbTDXHvV (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:51:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261764AbTDXHvV (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:51:21 -0400 Received: from dvmwest.gt.owl.de ([62.52.24.140]:8972 "EHLO dvmwest.gt.owl.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261760AbTDXHvS (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:51:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:03:26 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Flame Linus to a crisp! Message-ID: <20030424080326.GH19139@lug-owl.de> Mail-Followup-To: Kernel Mailing List References: <20030424051510.GK8931@holomorphy.com> <20030424061500.GN8978@holomorphy.com> <20030424074400.GD28253@mail.jlokier.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dA3KA1Bq6vhZBZVs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030424074400.GD28253@mail.jlokier.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: Linux mail 2.4.18 X-gpg-fingerprint: 250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 8399 E1BB X-gpg-key: wwwkeys.de.pgp.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --dA3KA1Bq6vhZBZVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-04-24 08:44:00 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote in message <20030424074400.GD28253@mail.jlokier.co.uk>: > William Lee Irwin III wrote: > > Well, my walking out of computing is tied to complete prevention of > > kernel hacking on commodity hardware, so you've not lost anything yet. > > I only really care if it's no longer possible to get a commodity system > > to run Linux on at all, not about crypto dongles. >=20 > It only gets _really_ bad when it becomes illegal to make your own > hardware :( We're basically already at that point. IIRC, I've read an article about something called "Super-DMCA" which prevents you (beside other things) to build up "systems" that could scrambl/encrypt sounds for pretected transmission (think VoIP over ssh or something like that in hardware). Even right now, you don't simply have (everywhere on this globe) the right to build a simple piece of hardware protecting your phone calls... This said, it _may_ even be illegal from this point of view to create a "new" general-purpose computer as it could be used for this purpose. Though, IANAL. MfG, JBG --=20 Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw@lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 "Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg fuer einen Freien Staat voll Freier B=FCrger" | im Internet! | im Ira= k! ret =3D do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(IRAQ_WAR_2 | DRM | TCPA)); --dA3KA1Bq6vhZBZVs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+p5pOHb1edYOZ4bsRApJcAJ9av+u8wqmNiBD7sYXoG6PQ9LsUTQCfYtDj Nt7mERo2Fh5InJ4mjZUC4f0= =XKNv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dA3KA1Bq6vhZBZVs--