From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263709AbTDXSpB (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:45:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263791AbTDXSpB (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:45:01 -0400 Received: from mx12.arcor-online.net ([151.189.8.88]:57532 "EHLO mx12.arcor-online.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263709AbTDXSo7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:44:59 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Jamie Lokier , William Lee Irwin III , Linus Torvalds , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Flame Linus to a crisp! Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:58:18 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20030424051510.GK8931@holomorphy.com> <20030424061500.GN8978@holomorphy.com> <20030424074400.GD28253@mail.jlokier.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030424074400.GD28253@mail.jlokier.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <20030424185708.0D34912E79E@mx12.arcor-online.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu 24 Apr 03 09:44, Jamie Lokier wrote: > It only gets _really_ bad when it becomes illegal to make your own > hardware :( Actually, that's where we were a few years ago with hardware, because nearly anything anybody would want to print on a wafer was covered by patents or copyrights. It's getting better by leaps and bounds. Now, a lot of patents have expired, a lot of non-proprietary cores are available, and it's mainly the EDM tools that are non-free. That's where we coders can help. Until the EDM tools get free, their current owners will continue to dictate what you can and can't design. Regards, Daniel