From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263481AbTD0RWK (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:22:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264687AbTD0RWK (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:22:10 -0400 Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.32]:52488 "HELO smtp012.mail.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263481AbTD0RWJ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:22:09 -0400 From: Michael Buesch To: Larry McVoy Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 19:34:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20030427142106.GA24244@merlin.emma.line.org> <20030427165959.GC6820@work.bitmover.com> In-Reply-To: <20030427165959.GC6820@work.bitmover.com> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304271934.21780.fsdeveloper@yahoo.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:59, Larry McVoy wrote: > The open source community, in my opinion, is certainly a contributing > factor in the emergence of the DMCA and DRM efforts. This community > thinks it is perfectly acceptable to copy anything that they find useful. Oh no. My opinion points exactly 180 degrees to the other side. You can't say: "The whole community is evil" if only a few people are. And IMHO that are only a _few_ people. I think most people of the opensource community know exactly about copyrights and so on and don't violate them. > Take a look at some of the recent BK flamewars and over and over you > will see people saying "we'll clone it". That's not unique to BK, > it's the same with anything else which is viewed as useful. And nobody > sees anything wrong with that, or copying music, whatever. "If it's > useful, take it" is the attitude. But: They don't illegaly steal bk. They make their own software for which _they_ own the copyright. I think it is their good right to do so. > Corporations are certainly watching things like our efforts with > BitKeeper, as well as the other companies who are trying to play nice > with the open source world. What are they learning? That if you don't > lock it up, the open source world has no conscience, no respect, and will > steal anything that isn't locked down. Show me a single example of the > community going "no, we can't take that, someone else did all the work > to produce it, we didn't". Good luck finding it. Instead you get "hey, > that's cool, let's copy it". With no acknowledgement that the creation > of the product took 100x the effort it takes to copy the product. I see no problem here. But in the future software patents will prevent it :P - -- Regards Michael Büsch http://www.8ung.at/tuxsoft 19:24:16 up 7:31, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.07 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rBSdoxoigfggmSgRAhJnAJ9LmwYmgV5aYD0ao/DVOdIN0f+ieACghWUL fPZm/m0G2+yaszGn7fD7hio= =rIkH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----