From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261275AbTD1VL6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:11:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261279AbTD1VL6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:11:58 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:35010 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261275AbTD1VL5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:11:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:24:04 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Chris Adams Cc: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Message-ID: <20030428212404.GA29041@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Chris Adams , Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030427183553.GA955879@hiwaay.net> <20030427185037.GA23581@work.bitmover.com> <20030427220717.GA24991@willow.seitz.com> <20030427223255.GH23068@work.bitmover.com> <20030428200424.GA9252@citd.de> <20030428201816.GB23581@work.bitmover.com> <20030428202231.GA556185@hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030428202231.GA556185@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 4.5, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 03:22:31PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Larry McVoy said: > > Sometimes. If you sit down with product A and use it in the process > > of creating product B which does what product A does, the courts have > > held that you can't copy look-and-feel for example. > > Please site a successful ruling to that effect. In the two most > well-known look-and-feel court cases, Apple lost their suit against > Microsoft, and Lotus lost theirs (on appeal) against Borland. It was written up on slashdot in the last year or so, I think it was some GUI thing maybe with Adobe. Poke around, if you can't find it I'll go look. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm