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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: linux@horizon.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Announcement] "Exec Shield", new Linux security feature
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 19:00:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305032300.h43N0UX9006675@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 03 May 2003 13:19:52 -0000." <20030503131952.5560.qmail@science.horizon.com>

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On Sat, 03 May 2003 13:19:52 -0000, linux@horizon.com  said:

> An interesting question arises: is the number of useful interpreter
> functions (system, popen, exec*) sufficiently low that they could be
> removed from libc.so entirely and only staticly linked, so processes
> that didn't use them wouldn't even have them in their address space,
> and ones that did would have them at less predictible addresses?
> 
> Right now, I'm thinking only of functions that end up calling execve();
> are there any other sufficiently powerful interpreters hiding in common
> system libraries?  regexec()?

This does absolutely nothing to stop an exploit from providing its own
inline version of execve().  There's nothing in libc that a process can't
do itself, inline.

A better bet is using an LSM module that prohibits exec() calls from any
unauthorized combinations of running program/user/etc.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-03 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-03 13:19 [Announcement] "Exec Shield", new Linux security feature linux
2003-05-03 23:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2003-05-04  7:03   ` Calin A. Culianu
2003-05-04  8:49     ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-05 13:35     ` Jesse Pollard
2003-05-04 15:24   ` linux
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2003-05-05  7:14 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-04 23:55 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-05  3:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-04 16:20 Yoav Weiss
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305040404300.12757-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305040448250.24497-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-05-04 15:48   ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-04 14:25 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-04 22:22 ` Richard Henderson
2003-05-05  0:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-04 11:19 Yoav Weiss
2003-05-04 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-02 22:46 Chuck Ebbert
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305021325130.6565-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <200305021829.h42ITclA000178@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <b8udjm$cgq$1@cesium.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-05-02 20:51     ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-02 20:56       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-02 21:07         ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-02 21:09           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-02 21:25             ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-02 16:37 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-02 17:05 ` Matthias Andree
2003-05-02 17:12   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-02 17:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-02 17:18   ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-02 17:32     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-02 18:29       ` John Bradford
2003-05-02 18:32         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-02 19:09         ` David Mosberger
2003-05-02 18:51       ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found]   ` <20030502172011$0947@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-02 18:17     ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-02 18:29       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-02 18:32         ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-02 18:50           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-02 21:48 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-03  6:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-03  9:56     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-03 12:48       ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-04  6:52     ` Calin A. Culianu
2003-05-04  8:10       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-04  8:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-04 15:40           ` Calin A. Culianu
2003-05-04 15:48             ` Sean Neakums
2003-05-04 15:23         ` Calin A. Culianu
2003-05-04 20:07       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-04 20:57 ` Kasper Dupont

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