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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	LW@KARO-electronics.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch] cache flush bug in mm/filemap.c (all kernels >= 2.5.30(at least))
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 09:55:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030526095551.C4417@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1053919171.14018.2.camel@rth.ninka.net>; from davem@redhat.com on Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:19:32PM -0700

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:19:32PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> Oh yes, this part is.  If you don't ensure this, everything
> breaks.
> 
> At the end of an I/O operation, say to a page cache page, that
> data ought to be visible equally to a userspace vs. a kernel
> space mapping to that page.
> 
> For example, this is why we use language about "cpu visibility" in the
> DMA api documentation and not "kernel cpu visibility" :-)  And because
> PIO transfers are basically pseudo-DMA they need to make the same exact
> guarentees.
> 
> If you've been living in a world where you didn't think this is
> necessary, I certainly feel bad for you :-)

Ok, so the flush_dcache_page() interface looses this; the original
placement of the flush_page_to_ram() ensured that data written by
device drivers was visible to user space.

Maybe the BIO layer can handle this - the same problem exists when
(and if) BIO uses a bounce buffer, so it would have to be handled
there.  Jens?

Lothar - can you confirm that your problem vanishes when you turn off
write allocation on the caches please?  (cachepolicy=writeback)

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-26  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-22 12:34 [patch] cache flush bug in mm/filemap.c (all kernels >= 2.5.30(at least)) LW
2003-05-22 14:03 ` Russell King
2003-05-22 14:11 ` Russell King
2003-05-23  8:02   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23  9:12     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-23  9:49       ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23 10:04         ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-23 10:15           ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23  8:20   ` Lothar Wassmann
2003-05-23  9:24     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-23 10:04       ` Lothar Wassmann
2003-05-23 10:45         ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-23 11:22           ` Paul Mackerras
2003-05-23 16:54           ` Russell King
2003-05-23 17:31             ` Hugh Dickins
2003-05-23 18:29               ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-23 18:34                 ` Russell King
2003-05-26  3:19                   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26  5:07                     ` Mika Penttilä
2003-05-26  5:08                       ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26  5:36                         ` Mika Penttilä
2003-05-26  5:36                           ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26 13:18                             ` Roman Zippel
2003-05-26 22:34                               ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 10:53                                 ` Roman Zippel
2003-05-27 21:22                                   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-28 16:35                                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-05-28 22:47                                       ` David S. Miller
2003-05-29  0:12                                         ` Roman Zippel
2003-05-29  1:37                                           ` David S. Miller
2003-05-29  7:13                                             ` Russell King
2003-05-29  7:15                                               ` David S. Miller
2003-05-29 17:49                                             ` Roman Zippel
2003-05-29 21:09                                               ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26  8:55                     ` Russell King [this message]
2003-05-26 13:08                       ` Lothar Wassmann
2003-05-26 22:19                         ` Russell King
2003-05-26 13:25                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 22:35                       ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26  3:20                   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23 11:13         ` Russell King
2003-05-23 12:46           ` Lothar Wassmann
2003-05-23 15:42             ` Hugh Dickins
2003-05-25 17:10               ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-26 11:44               ` Lothar Wassmann

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