From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264839AbTF0Vyt (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:54:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264829AbTF0Vyt (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:54:49 -0400 Received: from pizda.ninka.net ([216.101.162.242]:12473 "EHLO pizda.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264833AbTF0Vyq (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:54:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20030627.150248.08328103.davem@redhat.com> To: davidel@xmailserver.org Cc: mbligh@aracnet.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org From: "David S. Miller" In-Reply-To: References: <20030627.143738.41641928.davem@redhat.com> X-FalunGong: Information control. X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Davide Libenzi Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) David, your method is the dream of every software developer. It is not a dream, it works perfectly fine and has done so for 5+ years of Linux maintainence. To make these things scale you MUST push the work out to other people, you absolutely cannot centralize. And here we're pushing it out to the bug reporters, just like we push the work of patch maintainence to the patch submitters. If they don't care about the bug and won't retransmit when their stuff isn't being looked at, their bug isn't worth being looked at. I know that's a hard pill to swallow, but over years of work I can tell you this is the only scalable mechanism. Nobody likes this because it's not tracked somewhere and they can't show some pretty list of bugs to their management at the end of each week, TOO FUCKING BAD. Pay someone to work on your bugs if you want a pretty list and people being REQUIRED to look at and fix bugs. None of this crap is my problem.