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From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@jcwren.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bug in open() function (?)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:39:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307120139.40179.jcwren@jcwren.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307120511.h6C5BCSe017963@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

	While I'm sure I don't have a grasp of "the big picture", I would have 
imagines these would have acted like a mask against the file system 
attributes.  In effect setting O_RDONLY would clear the write permission bits 
read by stat(), and O_WRONLY would clear the read permission bits.  O_RDONLY 
+ O_WRONLY (O_RDWR) would leave the permissions alone.  These would be 
applied somewhere around the may_open() call in fs/open_namei.c

	A poor mans umaks(), I guess.

	--John

On Saturday 12 July 2003 01:11 am, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:38:09 PDT, Andrew Morton said:
> > "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@jcwren.com> wrote:
> > > I was playing around today and found that if an existing file is opened
> > > wit
>
> h
>
> > >  O_TRUNC | O_RDONLY, the existing file is truncated.
> >
> > Well that's fairly idiotic, isn't it?
>
> Not idiotic at all, and even if it was, it's still contrary to specific
> language in the manpage.
>
> I could *easily* see some program having a line of code:
>
> 	if (do_ro_testing) openflags |= O_RDONLY;
>
> I'd not be surprised if J.C. was playing around because a file unexpectedly
> shrank to zero size because of code like this.  There's a LOT of programs
> that implement some sort of "don't really do it" option, from "/bin/bash
> -n" to "cdrecord -dummy".  So you do something like the above to make your
> file R/O - and O_TRUNC *STILL* zaps the file, in *direct violation* of the
> language in the manpage.
>
> Whoops.  Ouch. Where's the backup tapes?
>
> > The Open Group go on to say "The result of using O_TRUNC with O_RDONLY is
> > undefined" which is also rather silly.
> >
> > I'd be inclined to leave it as-is, really.
>
> I hate to think how many programmers are relying on the *documented*
> behavior to prevent data loss during debugging/test runs....
>
> /Valdis


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-12  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-12  1:17 [PATCH] [2.5] adding ppp xon/xoff support Samuel Thibault
2003-07-12  1:30 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-12  2:42   ` Samuel Thibault
2003-07-12  3:09     ` Bug in open() function (?) J.C. Wren
2003-07-12  3:38       ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-12  5:11         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-12  5:23           ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-12  6:14             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-12  9:37               ` Andries Brouwer
2003-07-12 12:04                 ` jw schultz
2003-07-12  5:39           ` J.C. Wren [this message]
2003-07-26 21:35     ` [PATCH] [2.6] adding xon/xoff support to ppp Samuel Thibault
2003-07-17  7:54 Bug in open() function (?) Michael Kerrisk
2003-07-17 10:54 ` Andries Brouwer

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