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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: lm@bitmover.com, roland@topspin.com, alan@storlinksemi.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: TCP IP Offloading Interface
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:53:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030713165323.3fc2601f.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030713235424.GB31793@work.bitmover.com>

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:54:24 -0700
Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> wrote:

> Every time I tried to push the page flip idea or offloading or any of
> that crap, Andy Bechtolsheim would tell "the CPUs will get faster faster
> than you can make that work".  He was right.

I really don't see why receive is so much of a big deal
compared to send, and we do a send side version of this
stuff already with zero problems.

The NFS code is already basically ready to handle a fragmented packet
(headers + pages), and could stick the page part into the page cache
easily on receive.

And it's not the CPUs that really limit us here, it's memory
bandwidth.  It's one thing to have a PCI-X bus fast enough
to service 10Ggb/sec rates, it's yet another thing to have
a memory bus and RAM underneath that which can handle moving
that data over it _twice_.

The infrastructure needed to support this on the networking side
help us support other useful things, such as driver local packet
buffer recycling.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-13 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-13  7:33 TCP IP Offloading Interface Alan Shih
2003-07-13  7:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 16:22   ` Roland Dreier
2003-07-13 16:31     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-13 16:49       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-13 16:58       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-13 23:02     ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 23:35       ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-13 23:40         ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 23:54           ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-13 23:53             ` David S. Miller [this message]
2003-07-14  0:22               ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-14  0:24                 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-14  0:48                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-14  0:46               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-14  0:42                 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-16  2:46                   ` Matt Porter
2003-07-14  0:20       ` Roland Dreier
2003-07-14  0:28         ` David S. Miller
2003-07-16  2:37   ` Matt Porter
2003-07-13 14:51 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found] <E3738FB497C72449B0A81AEABE6E713C027A43@STXCHG1.simpletech.com>
2003-07-15  5:51 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-16  5:02   ` jamal
2003-07-16  1:51     ` Roland Dreier
2003-07-15 16:28 David griego

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