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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	marcelo@conectiva.com.br, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@digeo.com
Subject: Re: RFC on io-stalls patch
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:48:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030715094826.GF30537@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030715082850.GH833@suse.de>

On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:28:50AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> no_load:
> Kernel            [runs]        Time    CPU%    Loads   LCPU%   Ratio
> 2.4.21                 3        133     197.0   0.0     0.0     1.00
> 2.4.22-pre5            2        134     196.3   0.0     0.0     1.00
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe      3        133     196.2   0.0     0.0     1.00
> ctar_load:
> Kernel            [runs]        Time    CPU%    Loads   LCPU%   Ratio
> 2.4.21                 3        190     140.5   15.0    15.8    1.43
> 2.4.22-pre5            3        235     114.0   25.0    22.1    1.75
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe      3        194     138.1   19.7    20.6    1.46
> 
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe is way better than 2.4.21, look at the loads
> completed.
> 
> xtar_load:
> Kernel            [runs]        Time    CPU%    Loads   LCPU%   Ratio
> 2.4.21                 3        287     93.0    14.0    15.3    2.16
> 2.4.22-pre5            3        309     86.4    15.0    14.9    2.31
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe      3        249     107.2   11.3    14.1    1.87
> 
> 2.4.21 beats 2.4.22-pre5, not too surprising and expected, and not
> terribly interesting either.
> 
> io_load:
> Kernel            [runs]        Time    CPU%    Loads   LCPU%   Ratio
> 2.4.21                 3        543     49.7    100.4   19.0    4.08
> 2.4.22-pre5            3        637     42.5    120.2   18.5    4.75
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe      3        540     50.0    103.0   18.1    4.06
> 
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe completes the most loads here per time unit.
> 
> io_other:
> Kernel            [runs]        Time    CPU%    Loads   LCPU%   Ratio
> 2.4.21                 3        581     46.5    111.3   19.1    4.37
> 2.4.22-pre5            3        576     47.2    107.7   19.8    4.30
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe      3        452     59.7    85.3    19.5    3.40
> 
> 2.4.22-pre5 is again the slowest of the lot when it comes to
> workloads/time, 2.4.22-pre5 is again the fastest and completes the work
> load in the shortest time.
> 
> read_load:
> Kernel            [runs]        Time    CPU%    Loads   LCPU%   Ratio
> 2.4.21                 3        151     180.1   8.3     9.3     1.14
> 2.4.22-pre5            3        150     181.3   8.1     9.3     1.12
> 2.4.22-pre5-axboe      3        152     178.9   8.2     9.9     1.14
> 
> Pretty equal.

io_other and xtar_load aren't exactly equal.  As for elevator-lowlatency
alone I'm not sure why it doesn't show big benefits in the above
workloads. It was very noticeable in my tests where I normally counted
the lines per second in `find /` or `time ls` (from comparisons with
contest with previous kernels w/o elevator-lowlatency, it looked like it
made a difference too and I've got some positive feedback). Maybe it's
because we enlarged the queue size to 4M in this version, in the
original patches where I run most of the latency tests it was 2M but I
was concerned that it could be too small.

If it doesn't take too much time, I would be curious what happens if
you change:

	MAX_QUEUE_SECTORS (4 << (20 - 9)) 

to

	MAX_QUEUE_SECTORS (2 << (20 - 9)) 

(it's up to you if to apply your patch or not along with this change, it
should make a noticeable difference either ways)

Obviously, the smaller the queue, the higher the fairness and the lower
the latency, but the smaller the pipelining will be in the I/O queue, so
it'll be less guaranteed to keep the spindle constantly working, not an
issue for all low end devices though. Ideally it should be tunable per-device.
on a 50mbyte/sec array 2M didn't show any degradation either during
contigous I/O, but I didn't run any test on faster storages, so I felt
safer to use 4M in the latest versions, knowing latency would be
slightly hurted.

Andrea

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-15  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-08 20:06 RFC on io-stalls patch Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-10 13:57 ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-11 14:13   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-12  0:20     ` Nick Piggin
2003-07-12 18:37       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-12  7:37     ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-12  7:48       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-12 18:32       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-13  0:33         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-13  9:01         ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-13 16:20           ` Chris Mason
2003-07-13 16:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-13 19:33               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-13 17:47             ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-13 19:35               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-14  0:36                 ` Chris Mason
2003-07-13 19:19           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-14  5:49             ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-14 12:23               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-14 13:12                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-14 19:51                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-14 20:09                     ` Chris Mason
2003-07-14 20:19                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-14 21:24                         ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15  5:46                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-14 20:09                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-14 20:24                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-14 20:34                         ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15  5:35                           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                           ` <20030714224528.GU16313@dualathlon.random>
2003-07-15  5:40                             ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                             ` <1058229360.13317.364.camel@tiny.suse.com>
2003-07-15  5:43                               ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                               ` <20030714175238.3eaddd9a.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]                                 ` <20030715020706.GC16313@dualathlon.random>
2003-07-15  5:45                                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  6:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15  6:08                                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  7:03                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15  8:28                                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  9:12                                             ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15  9:17                                               ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  9:18                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  9:30                                                   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15 10:03                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15 10:11                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15 14:18                                                 ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15 14:29                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-16 17:06                                                   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15  9:22                                               ` Chris Mason
2003-07-15  9:59                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15  9:48                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-07-14 20:16                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-14 20:17                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-07-14 20:27                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15  5:26                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  5:48                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15  6:01                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-15  6:33                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-15 11:22                         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-15 11:27                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-16 12:43                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-16 12:46                               ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-16 12:59                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-16 13:04                                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-16 13:11                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-16 13:21                                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-16 13:44                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-16 14:00                                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-07-16 14:24                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-16 16:49                                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-15 18:47 Shane Shrybman

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