From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270528AbTGSU13 (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:27:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270530AbTGSU13 (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:27:29 -0400 Received: from hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.202.12]:40144 "HELO hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S270528AbTGSU12 (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:27:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:42:19 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Larry McVoy , David Schwartz , Larry McVoy , Richard Stallman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Bitkeeper Message-ID: <20030719204219.GG7977@fs.tum.de> References: <20030718204405.GA658@work.bitmover.com> <20030718222702.GC658@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030718222702.GC658@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 03:27:02PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 02:08:32PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > My understanding of the relevant case law in the United States is that > > these types of restrictions are not allowed under copyright law itself. > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:23:30PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Actually your license is simply irrelevant in most of thre world. You > > aren't allowed to forbid reverse engineering for interoperability. > > "Judge, I want to violate this license on this product that I got > for free because it's not free enough". > > "Judge, we give it out for free and we also developed technology > to transfer the data out of our product and into a GPLed product, > we do that at our expense and even host the competing GPLed repos > for free and they still want to violate the license" > > Who do you think is going to win that one? >... "Judge, our current German copyright law explicitely states that such a clause is void." > Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed