From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271706AbTGXQk6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:40:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271712AbTGXQk6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:40:58 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:40389 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271706AbTGXQk5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:40:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:55:47 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Yuliy Pisetsky Cc: Larry McVoy , "Richard B. Johnson" , Felipe Alfaro Solana , Diego Calleja Garc?a , Michael Bernstein , gmicsko@szintezis.hu, LKML Subject: Re: SCO offers UnixWare licenses for Linux Message-ID: <20030724165547.GB19975@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Yuliy Pisetsky , Larry McVoy , "Richard B. Johnson" , Felipe Alfaro Solana , Diego Calleja Garc?a , Michael Bernstein , gmicsko@szintezis.hu, LKML References: <1058807414.513.4.camel@sunshine> <141DFFFA-BBA4-11D7-A61F-000A95773C00@seven-angels.net> <20030721205940.7190f845.diegocg@teleline.es> <1059058329.957.11.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <20030724150841.GA12647@work.bitmover.com> <20030724160146.GF12647@work.bitmover.com> <3F200BD6.3040304@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F200BD6.3040304@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.9, required 7, AWL, EARN_MONEY) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:39:50AM -0500, Yuliy Pisetsky wrote: > A more reasonable analogy is that you download a bunch of free programs > while one of them has some copy-righted music in it for sound effects. > Surely you'd have the ability to remove this once you found out without > penalty? It really depends. If you were an end user and the amount that the copyright holder could hope to get from you is small, probably. If you were a distro maker and you made $50M/year off of things which included the copyrighted material, I doubt very much that you'd get away with it. All this stuff boils down to money: how much the violator has, how much the copyright holder thinks they can get. Read up on the law, Google is your friend. It is complex but the prevailing idea here that you can just rewrite the infringing material and that's the end of it is not true in my opinion. If you think about it, it makes sense. If someone damaged your business and all they had to do was say "whoops, we'll stop", that's not much of a disincentive. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm