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From: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris@rdlg.net>
To: Steven Cole <elenstev@mesatop.com>
Cc: Tomas Szepe <szepe@pinerecords.com>,
	bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Posting format
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:15:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030724171553.GK32585@rdlg.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1059065578.1668.234.camel@spc9.esa.lanl.gov>

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Thus spake Steven Cole (elenstev@mesatop.com):

> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 10:03, Tomas Szepe wrote:
> > > [Robert.L.Harris@rdlg.net]
> > > 
> > > On the other hand if everyone posted at the top it would be considerably
> > > easier reading for those who have been following the conversation
> > > without having to scroll down and figure out where comments and the
> > > conversation is at.
> > 
> > So how do you context-quote when replying at the top?
> > 
> > Original text:
> > 
> > 	Argument A.
> > 	Argument B.
> > 
> > Reply:
> > 
> > 	Reply intro text.
> > 
> > 	Reaction A.
> > 	> Argument A.
> > 
> > 	Reaction B.
> > 	> Argument B.
> > 
> > I don't think so.  Awkward (mixing directions) and confusing.
> > 
> > > For those new to the conversation they can just start at the bottom and
> > > scroll up.
> > 
> > Ever actually tried doing that?  IMHO it's not half as practical and
> > natural as reading from the top down.  (You have to keep scrolling,
> > searching for block starts.)
> 
> I think Tomas has just hit upon why top posting is fundamentally wrong.
> 
> Indo-European languages read left to right, Semitic languages read right
> to left, and some Oriental languages read top to bottom, but no human
> languages I'm aware of read bottom to top.  
> 
> Consider a Cafe sign:
> 
> C
> a
> f
> e
> 
> That is readable.  How about:
> 
> e
> f
> a
> C
> 
> Not very readable unless you spend extra processing time to think about
> it. Reading bottom to top is counter-intuitive and wastes time. Speaking
> of which, apologies to all who feel they've wasted time by reading this.
> 
> Hmm, it looks like you top-posters out there are in good company. 
> Marcelo seems to be taking the lead.  Grumble.
> 


I'm not saying you should write your paragraphs backwards such as your
Cafe sign.  It's more of an organizational thing than an order of
reading thing.  When I sort my ToDo list I put the things most important
on top, when I sort my mail, I put the things I need to read on top,
etc.  This way the most important piece (the newest comment in this
case) is on top and I don't have to go digging for it.

Not everyone puts inline responses and they're not always needed.  If
you place some a good idea is one a co-worker uses:

  See inline comments below.

4 works, 1 line.  Tells us there is content he added mixed in.
Otherwise I don't have to waste time and effort digging through the
rants, flames and fluff wondering "is there something down here?"...







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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-24 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-23 20:18 2.6.0-test1-ac3 still broken on Adaptec I2O Robert L. Harris
2003-07-23 20:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-23 22:00   ` Robert L. Harris
2003-07-23 22:53     ` Tomas Szepe
2003-07-23 23:32       ` Posting format bill davidsen
2003-07-24  0:52         ` Tomas Szepe
2003-07-24 15:14         ` Steven Cole
2003-07-24 15:47           ` Robert L. Harris
2003-07-24 16:03             ` Tomas Szepe
2003-07-24 16:52               ` Steven Cole
2003-07-24 17:15                 ` Robert L. Harris [this message]
2003-07-24 17:42                   ` Steven Cole
2003-07-24 16:03             ` Bas Mevissen
2003-07-24 16:05             ` Steven Cole
2003-07-24 23:15             ` Bill Davidsen
2003-07-24 23:24             ` CaT
2003-07-25  2:59               ` jw schultz
2003-07-25  3:33                 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-24 15:24         ` [OT] " Sean Neakums
2003-07-23 20:24 ` 2.6.0-test1-ac3 still broken on Adaptec I2O Alan Cox
2003-07-23 21:20   ` Samuel Flory
2003-07-23 22:17     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-24  8:01       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-24 11:24         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-24 17:37 Posting format Mudama, Eric
2003-07-24 18:57 John Bradford
2003-07-25 18:49 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-25 20:35 John Bradford
2003-07-25 22:10 ` jw schultz

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