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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: diegocg@teleline.es, rpjday@mindspring.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ml@basmevissen.nl
Subject: Re: time for some drivers to be removed?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:29:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307241829.h6OITjR3000582@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> (raw)

> once upon a time, i suggested having more than one level of module
> "quality".  at the moment, some kernel code is marked as "EXPERIMENTAL"=
> ,
> but this is supported via a regular dependency when it doesn't really
> qualify as a dependency.  dependencies are typically used to refer to
> dependencies on other *code*, not some abstract level of goodness
> like "EXPERIMENTAL".
>
> perhaps it's time to add another category with values like OBSOLETE,
> DEPRECATED, EXPERIMENTAL, BROKEN(?) and so on.  by default, the
> quality would be regular, or something like that.

_NO_!!!

This is a _bad thing_, if a distribution wants to do it to their tree,
fine, but why add extra layers of complexity that a lot of devlopers
don't care about just so that the source tree 'looks nice'?  It's
absolutely pointless, and irritating for anybody actually trying to
work on the codebase.

> and in the end, while i know some folks don't think it's a big
> deal, i think doing a "make allyesconfig" really should work.

It's _counter productive_ just to bodge it so that make allyesconfig
works.  I _want_ it to _fail_ if the drivers are _broken_.

A CONFIG_KNOWN_BROKEN option is a good thing, in the case where,
E.G. a SCSI driver is broken, and will randomly corrupt data, but
otherwise compiles and appears to work.  Apart from that, it's a
complete waste of time to fiddle around with silly options that do
nothing but bloat the codebase and waste developers' time.

John.

             reply	other threads:[~2003-07-24 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-24 18:29 John Bradford [this message]
2003-07-24 18:31 ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 19:31   ` Eli Carter
2003-07-25 10:48 ` Bas Mevissen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-14  5:34 John Bradford
2003-08-13 20:55 John Bradford
2003-08-13 20:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-13 20:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-05 12:42 Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-05 13:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-05 13:35   ` Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-05 13:48     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-05 14:01       ` Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-06 10:06         ` Claus-Justus Heine
2003-08-09 19:40           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-05 16:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-05 18:47   ` Leopold Gouverneur
2003-07-28  7:12 linux
2003-07-27 16:22 John Bradford
2003-07-25 11:10 John Bradford
2003-07-24 14:43 John Bradford
2003-07-24 19:24 ` Brian Jackson
2003-07-24 12:20 Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 14:58 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-24 15:34   ` Bas Mevissen
2003-07-24 17:32     ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-24 17:50       ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 19:16         ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-24 19:43           ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 18:02       ` Samuel Flory
2003-07-24 19:07     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-25 10:48       ` Bas Mevissen
2003-07-27 15:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 15:59   ` David D. Hagood
2003-07-27 16:18     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 16:40     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-27 17:00       ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 18:45       ` David D. Hagood
2003-07-27 20:40         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-27 20:56           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 20:56             ` Alan Cox
2003-07-28  2:23               ` Herbert Pötzl
2003-07-29 19:33               ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-13 20:16                 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-09 18:04   ` David Woodhouse
2003-08-09 19:36     ` Adrian Bunk

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