From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S272484AbTGZNcg (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:32:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S272485AbTGZNcg (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:32:36 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:26578 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S272484AbTGZNcf (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:32:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 06:45:01 -0700 From: "Randy.Dunlap" To: "Robert P. J. Day" Cc: szepe@pinerecords.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: some kernel config menu suggested tweaks Message-Id: <20030726064501.3d04974d.rddunlap@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20030726121432.GB6560@louise.pinerecords.com> Organization: OSDL X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: +5V?h'hZQPB9kW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 08:30:59 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: | On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Tomas Szepe wrote: | | > > [rpjday@mindspring.com] | > > | > > 1) i mentioned this before, i think, but after one deselects | > > Power management, should ACPI Support and CPU Frequency | > > scaling still be available? | > > | > > the "make xconfig" menu display suggests a submenu | > > structure there, which clearly isn't the case. | > | > Why don't you go ahead and send a patch? Ditto. the right response. | i'd be happy to, but based on my previous experience sending | in a few patches, it's just not worth the aggravation any more. | | just one of my patches that got adopted took, literally, several | weeks of being dropped on the floor with no reason why. and i | had to resubmit it, slightly updated, for every BK rev of the | kernel since the previous patch wouldn't apply cleanly -- | it might be a line or two off, which would require remaking | the patch and resubmitting it *again*. at which point, it | would be dropped on the floor *again*. | | don't get me wrong -- i understand that there has to be some | form of QA in accepting kernel patches, and after a while, | regular submitters can build up a reputation. and the QA is on patches, not (so much) on dialog. | but, at this point, it's not terribly useful to encourage people | to submit patches if those patches are just tossed. | | it's like the classic catch-22: | | "we can't hire you. you don't have enough experience doing | this job." | "ok, so how do i get experience?" | "well, you have to do this job for a while." | | uh, right. so, while there's not much point in my submitting | patches, i can still toss suggestions from the sidelines, unless | you have some ideas. i'm certainly open to advice. But suggestions from the sidelines are just too close to whinging (Brit. spelling :) and moaning. Not very helpful. -- ~Randy