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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linas@austin.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH: Race in 2.6.0-test2 timer code
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:28:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030730112819.GK23835@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030730035140.7c834268.akpm@osdl.org>

On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:51:40AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >
> > But on 2.6 the timer will run precisely on the CPU it was added, so i
> >  think the race is not possible.
> 
> well there is add_timer_on()...
> 
> I still don't see the race in the itimer code actually.  On return
> from del_timer_sync() we know that the timer is not pending, even
> if it_real_fn() tried to re-add it.
> 
> ie: why does the below "crash"?
> 
> 
> Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > 	cpu0			cpu1
> >  	------------		--------------------
> > 
> >  	do_setitimer
> >  				it_real_fn
> >  	del_timer_sync		add_timer	-> crash
> 
> 
> (Does the timer_pending() test in del_timer_sync() needs some
> barriers btw?)

it might be possible to use ordered writes on one side and ordered reads
on the other side to fix this instead of spinlock. I suggested to use my
spinlock-by-hand idea to fix it in 2.4 (like I previously did with
mod_timer), but we might try to do something more efficient in 2.6 if
you've some idea. I don't think it matters much anyways since the
cacheline wouldn't be exlusive anyways if we get into the above path,
and the above isn't the common path, but maybe it does. I think the
unified way of locking with mod_timer/add_timer/del_timer I'm currently
used is simple and clean, but if you see any significant performance
advantage we can change it of course.

If my last email where I analyzed the problem in more detail is not
clear or you see fault please let me know of course.

thanks,

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-30 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-29 15:41 PATCH: Race in 2.6.0-test2 timer code linas
2003-07-29 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-30  5:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30  6:36     ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-30  7:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30  7:34         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30  7:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30  8:28             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 10:31               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30 11:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 11:49                   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30 12:34                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 21:18                       ` linas
2003-07-30 22:06                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 22:17                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-31  7:04                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30 21:19                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 23:43                 ` linas
2003-07-30 23:56                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 23:54                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-31  0:16                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-31 17:23                     ` linas
2003-08-01  6:27                       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30  7:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30  8:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 10:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-30 10:51                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-30 11:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-07-30 11:22                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-30 20:05     ` linas
2003-07-31  6:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-07-31 22:56     ` linas
2003-08-01  6:23       ` Ingo Molnar

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