From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TSCs are a no-no on i386
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:33:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030730203318.GH1873@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1059595260.10447.6.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>
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On Wed, 2003-07-30 21:01:00 +0100, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
wrote in message <1059595260.10447.6.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>:
> On Mer, 2003-07-30 at 19:45, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Note that this can also allow Step-A 486's to correctly run multi-thread
> > applications since cmpxchg has a wrong opcode on this early CPU.
> >
> > Don't use this to enable multi-threading on an SMP machine, the lock
> > atomicity can't be guaranted!
>
> The bigger problem (and certainly with some of the cmov emulation hacks
> I've seen) is getting the security checking right when you need to
> reprocess the user data - another reason to do it in userspace with a
> preload 8)
Well... For sure, I can write a LD_PRELOAD lib dealing with SIGILL, but
how do I enable it for the whole system. That is, I'd need to give
LD_PRELOAD=xxx at the kernel's boot prompt to have it as en environment
variable for each and every process?
That sounds a tad inelegant to me. Really, I'd prefer to see libstdc++
be compiled for i386 ...
...and IFF those new opcodes bring _that_ much performance, then we
should think about another Debian distribution for i686-linux. Up to
now, I was really proud of having _one_ distribution that's basically
capable of running on all and any machines I own...
MfG, JBG
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-30 13:56 TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 14:18 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 14:44 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 16:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2003-07-30 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-30 18:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 18:30 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-07-30 18:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 20:01 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-30 20:33 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw [this message]
2003-07-30 22:19 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-07-31 6:11 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 23:05 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 11:11 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-31 11:26 ` Emulating i486+ insn on i386 (was: TSCs are a no-no on i386) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 11:41 ` TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 0:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-31 6:22 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 7:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-31 11:38 ` Emulating i486 on i386 (was: TSCs are a no-no on i386) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 11:51 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 12:14 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 13:01 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 15:09 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-07-31 15:33 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-01 5:37 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-07-31 15:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 15:32 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 15:07 ` TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 15:23 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-31 15:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-31 16:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-06 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-06 14:33 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 20:28 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 21:50 ` Petr Vandrovec
2003-07-30 23:10 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 15:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 16:01 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 18:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 19:10 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 6:29 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 20:27 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-06 16:41 James Bottomley
2003-08-06 16:45 James Bottomley
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