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From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TSCs are a no-no on i386
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:24:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030731162423.GC1873@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0307311126530.770@chaos>

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On Thu, 2003-07-31 11:50:27 -0400, Richard B. Johnson <root@chaos.analogic.com>
wrote in message <Pine.LNX.4.53.0307311126530.770@chaos>:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Willy Tarreau wrote:

> The bad op-code for the i386 is cmpxchg. This is what triggers
> the trap. This can be emulated, although the emulation is
> not SMP compatible. You worry about this when somebody makes
> a dual '386 machine ;^).  Also, the best performing emulation
> for any op-codes should be done within the kernel. That way,
> the invalid-opcode trap works just like the math emulator. You
> don't need the overhead of calling a user-mode handler. If
> this is emulation is implimented, then one should also emulate
> BSWAP and XADD. This makes '486 code compatible with '386
> machines.

Thanks for this fine explanation! Maybe I'd take the 2.4.x emulator
kernel patch and bring it in line with 2.6.x?

However, that doesn't release gcc's developers from providing a solution
to the initial problem (i386 and i486 compiled libs/programs
incompatible) from the task to work on libstdc++ :->

MfG, JBG

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-31 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-30 13:56 TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 14:18 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 14:44   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 16:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2003-07-30 17:19   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-30 18:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 18:30   ` Mike Fedyk
2003-07-30 18:45     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 20:01       ` Alan Cox
2003-07-30 20:33         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 22:19           ` J.A. Magallon
2003-07-31  6:11             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 23:05           ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 11:11             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-31 11:26               ` Emulating i486+ insn on i386 (was: TSCs are a no-no on i386) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 11:41             ` TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31  0:22           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-31  6:22             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31  7:17               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-31 11:38                 ` Emulating i486 on i386 (was: TSCs are a no-no on i386) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 11:51                   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 12:14                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 13:01                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 15:09                         ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-07-31 15:33                           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-01  5:37                             ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-07-31 15:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 15:32                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 15:07                 ` TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 15:23                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-31 15:50                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-31 16:24                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw [this message]
2003-08-06 11:08         ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-06 14:33           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 20:28       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 21:50         ` Petr Vandrovec
2003-07-30 23:10           ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 15:10             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 16:01               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 18:37                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 19:10                   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31  6:29           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 20:27   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-06 16:41 James Bottomley
2003-08-06 16:45 James Bottomley

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