From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271369AbTHDDtF (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Aug 2003 23:49:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271371AbTHDDtF (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Aug 2003 23:49:05 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:407 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271369AbTHDDtD (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Aug 2003 23:49:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:48:43 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Glen Turner Cc: Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: TOE brain dump Message-ID: <20030804034843.GA8683@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Glen Turner , Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030802140444.E5798@almesberger.net> <3F2BF5C7.90400@us.ibm.com> <3F2C0C44.6020002@pobox.com> <20030802184901.G5798@almesberger.net> <3F2CAE61.7070401@pobox.com> <3F2DBB2B.9050803@aarnet.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F2DBB2B.9050803@aarnet.edu.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:17:23AM +0930, Glen Turner wrote: > >Really fast, really long pipes in practice don't exist for 99.9% of all > >Internet users. > > Here every worthwhile fast pipe is a long fast pipe. 90% of > Australia's net traffic goes to the West Coast of the USA, > that's 14,000Km away. I couldn't tell from your posting if you were arguing for an offload or not. If you are, and you are using these stats as a reason, I'd like to know the absolute numbers, router to router, that we are talking about. I have a feeling that few cheap PC's could handle all the load but I'm willing to be educated. Even if I'm way off, a pair of routers between Australia and the US is hardly a reason to muck about in the TCP stack. If we were talking about millions of routers, well sure, that makes sense. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm