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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	rddunlap@osdl.org, davej@redhat.com, willy@debian.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-janitor-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: C99 Initialisers
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:54:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030813195412.GE10015@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F3A952C.4050708@pobox.com>

On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:44:44PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> enums are easy  putting direct references would be annoying, but I also 
> argue it's potentially broken and wrong to store and export that 
> information publicly anyway.  The use of enums instead of pointers is 
> practically required because there is a many-to-one relationship of ids 
> to board information structs.

The hard part is that it's actually many-to-many.  The same card can have
multiple drivers.  one driver can support many cards.

Let me give you a true story that your solution needs to address.
I recently got myself a Compaq Evo with an eepro100 onboard.  So I took
my Debian 3.0 CD and tried to install on it.  Failed because the eepro
on the board had PCI IDs that were more recent than the driver.

So I took the driver module, put it on a floppy, hand-edited the binary
to replace one of the PCI IDs with the ones that came back from lspci.
Stuck the floppy back in the Evo, loaded the hacked module and finished
the install.  Then compiled a new kernel ;-)

I haven't seen anything to address this in a nicer way yet.

-- 
"It's not Hollywood.  War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
victory, it is about death.  I've seen thousands and thousands of dead bodies.
Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?" -- Robert Fisk

  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-13 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-12  2:02 C99 Initialisers CaT
2003-08-12  2:18 ` Robert Love
2003-08-12  2:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-12  2:45     ` Robert Love
2003-08-12  2:57     ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2003-08-12  5:38     ` Greg KH
2003-08-12  9:01       ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-08-12 10:03         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-08-12 10:19           ` Jakub Jelinek
2003-08-12 11:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-12 16:54         ` Ian Hastie
2003-08-12 18:01         ` Greg KH
2003-08-12 23:53           ` Dave Jones
2003-08-13  0:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-13  0:23               ` Greg KH
2003-08-13  0:31                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-14  5:45               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-08-13 15:52             ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-13 17:50               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  0:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  0:14             ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-08-13  0:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  0:37                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-08-13  0:49                   ` Dave Jones
2003-08-13  1:25                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  3:02                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-08-13  3:26                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 10:14                         ` David S. Miller
2003-08-13 17:31                           ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 17:36                             ` David S. Miller
2003-08-13 17:47                             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 18:02                               ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 18:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 18:38                                   ` Russell King
2003-08-13 19:44                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 19:54                                       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2003-08-13 20:15                                         ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 20:16                                         ` Dave Jones
2003-08-13 20:30                                           ` Matt Domsch
2003-08-13 20:29                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 21:05                                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-13 22:24                                             ` Roman Zippel
2003-08-14 20:31                                               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-14 10:05                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-08-14 10:25                                             ` Gene Heskett
2003-08-14 10:52                                             ` jw schultz
2003-08-14 12:34                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-08-14 12:57                                             ` Andrey Panin
2003-08-14 18:45                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-08-13 21:06                                       ` Russell King
2003-08-13 21:17                                       ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2003-08-13 17:50                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-13 17:54                               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 17:54                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-13 17:58                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 18:03                                 ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 17:58                               ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 18:21                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-13 18:09                               ` Russell King
2003-08-13 20:21                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-08-13 21:17                               ` David S. Miller
2003-08-13 21:26                               ` Greg KH
2003-08-14 22:46                                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-08-12 17:37     ` Dave Jones
2003-08-12 17:48       ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-12 22:06         ` Ian Hastie
2003-08-13 15:54   ` CaT
2003-08-14  6:57     ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-08-12 16:52 Shureih, Tariq
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     [not found]                   ` <k7Lq.7Gr.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-13 21:19                     ` junkio
2003-08-13 22:18                       ` Greg KH

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