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* 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
@ 2003-08-23 10:52 Tomasz Torcz
  2003-08-23 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tomasz Torcz @ 2003-08-23 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LKML

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Hi,

I am using ACPI for few years now. As far as I can see, on my
machine it is only usfeul for binding events to Power button (like
running fbdump) and for powering off. I'm also experimenting
with swsusp, which I run by /proc/acpi/sleep.

2.6.0-test4 has a surprise for me:

Linux version 2.6.0-test4 (zdzichu@mother) (gcc version 3.3.1) #15 Sat Aug 23 12:03:
02 CEST 2003
Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000013ff0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff0000 - 0000000013ff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff3000 - 0000000014000000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
319MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 81904
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 77808 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.1 present.
ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You can enable it with acpi=force
ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA693                                    ) @ 0x000f70c0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 AWARD  AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x13ff3000
ACPI: FADT (v001 AWARD  AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x13ff3040
ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA693 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000a) @ 0x00000000

WTF? My BIOS was perfectly good all those years! And no, there is
no upgrade for my motherboard available. Using acpi=force is ugly
and un-understandable.

There are also some strange directories in /proc :
dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 Aug 23 12:50 /proc/ac_adapter/
dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 Aug 23 12:50 /proc/fan

they are empty, but they should be in /proc/acpi/

Attached files:
Output from dmidecode, lspci -v, my dmesg and /proc/cpuinfo

[Please CC me on replies. Thank you].

-- 
Tomasz Torcz                 "God, root, what's the difference?" 
zdzichu@irc.-nie.spam-.pl         "God is more forgiving."   

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processor	: 0
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 6
model		: 6
model name	: Celeron (Mendocino)
stepping	: 5
cpu MHz		: 368.511
cache size	: 128 KB
fdiv_bug	: no
hlt_bug		: no
f00f_bug	: no
coma_bug	: no
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 2
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr
bogomips	: 720.89


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# dmidecode 1.8
SMBIOS 2.1 present.
DMI 2.1 present.
31 structures occupying 840 bytes.
DMI table at 0x000F0800.
Handle 0x0000
	DMI type 0, 19 bytes.
	BIOS Information Block
		Vendor: Award Software International, Inc.
		Version: 4.51 PG
		Release: 09/13/00
		BIOS base: 0xE0000
		ROM size: 256K
		Capabilities:
			Flags: 0x000000007FCBDE90
Handle 0x0001
	DMI type 1, 25 bytes.
	System Information Block
		Vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
		Product: VT82C692BX
		Version:  
		Serial Number:  
Handle 0x0002
	DMI type 2, 8 bytes.
	Board Information Block
		Vendor:  
		Product: 693-686A
		Version:  
		Serial Number:  
Handle 0x0003
	DMI type 3, 13 bytes.
	Chassis Information Block
		Vendor:  
		Chassis Type: Unknown
		Version:  
		Serial Number:  
		Asset Tag:  
Handle 0x0004
	DMI type 4, 32 bytes.
	Processor
		Socket Designation: SLOT 1
		Processor Type: Central Processor
		Processor Family: Pentium II processor
		Processor Manufacturer: Intel
		Processor Version: INTEL(R) CELERON(TM)
Handle 0x0005
	DMI type 5, 24 bytes.
	Memory Controller
Handle 0x0006
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: BANK_0
		Banks: 0 1
		Speed: 60nS
		Type: 
		Installed Size: 64Mbyte
		Enabled Size: 64Mbyte
Handle 0x0007
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: BANK_1
		Banks: 2 3
		Speed: 60nS
		Type: UNKNOWN 
		Installed Size: Not Installed
		Enabled Size: Not Installed
Handle 0x0008
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: BANK_2
		Banks: 4 5
		Speed: 60nS
		Type: 
		Installed Size: 256Mbyte
		Enabled Size: 256Mbyte
Handle 0x0009
	DMI type 6, 12 bytes.
	Memory Bank
		Socket: BANK_3
		Banks: 6 7
		Speed: 60nS
		Type: FPM 
		Installed Size: 64Mbyte
		Enabled Size: 64Mbyte
Handle 0x000A
	DMI type 7, 19 bytes.
	Cache
		Socket: Internal Cache
		L1 Internal Cache: write-back
		L1 Cache Size: 32K
		L1 Cache Maximum: 32K
		L1 Cache Type: Synchronous 
Handle 0x000B
	DMI type 7, 19 bytes.
	Cache
		Socket: External Cache
		L2 External Cache: write-back
		L2 Cache Size: 128K
		L2 Cache Maximum: 2048K
		L2 Cache Type: Synchronous 
Handle 0x000C
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: PRIMARY IDE
		Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: None
		Port Type: Other
Handle 0x000D
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: SECONDARY IDE
		Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: None
		Port Type: Other
Handle 0x000E
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: FDD
		Internal Connector Type: On Board Floppy
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: None
		Port Type: 8251 FIFO Compatible
Handle 0x000F
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: COM1
		Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: DB-9 pin male
		Port Type: Serial Port 16450 Compatible
Handle 0x0010
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: COM2
		Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: DB-9 pin male
		Port Type: Serial Port 16450 Compatible
Handle 0x0011
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: LPT1
		Internal Connector Type: DB-25 pin female
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: DB-25 pin female
		Port Type: Parallel Port ECP/EPP
Handle 0x0012
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: Keyboard
		Internal Connector Type: Other
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: PS/2
		Port Type: Keyboard Port
Handle 0x0013
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: PS/2 Mouse
		Internal Connector Type: PS/2
		External Designator: No Detected
		External Connector Type: PS/2
		Port Type: Mouse Port
Handle 0x0014
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: ISA
		Type: 16bit Long ISA 
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x0015
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: ISA
		Type: 16bit Long ISA 
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x0016
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: ISA
		Type: 16bit Long ISA 
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x0017
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: ISA
		Type: 16bit Long ISA 
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x0018
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI
		Type: 32bit Long PCI 
		Status: Available.
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x0019
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI
		Type: 32bit Long PCI 
		Status: Available.
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x001A
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI
		Type: 32bit Long PCI 
		Status: In use.
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x001B
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: PCI
		Type: 32bit Long PCI 
		Status: In use.
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x001C
	DMI type 9, 13 bytes.
	Card Slot
		Slot: AGP
		Type: 32bit Long AGP 
		Status: Available.
		Slot Features: 5v 
Handle 0x001D
	DMI type 8, 9 bytes.
	Port Connector
		Internal Designator: USB
		Internal Connector Type: None
		External Designator:  
		External Connector Type: Other
		Port Type: USB
Handle 0x001E
	DMI type 13, 22 bytes.
	BIOS Language Information
		Installable Languages: 3
			n|US|iso8859-1
			r|CA|iso8859-1
			a|JP|unicode
		Currently Installed Language: n|US|iso8859-1
ACPI 1.0 present.
	OEM ID: VIA693
RSD table at 0x13FF3000.
BIOS32 Service Directory present.
	Calling Interface Address: 0x000FB280
PNP 1.0 present.
	Event Notification: Not Supported
	Real Mode Code Address: F000:BF20
	Real Mode Data Address: F000:0000
	Protected Mode Code Address: 0x000FBEF8
	Protected Mode Data Address: 0x000F0000
PCI Interrupt Routing 1.0 present.
	Table Size: 144 bytes
	Router ID: 00:07.0
	Exclusive IRQs: 10 11 12
	Compatible Router: 1106:0596

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Linux version 2.6.0-test4 (zdzichu@mother) (gcc version 3.3.1) #15 Sat Aug 23 12:03:02 CEST 2003
Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000013ff0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff0000 - 0000000013ff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff3000 - 0000000014000000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
319MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 81904
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 77808 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.1 present.
ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
You can enable it with acpi=force
ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA693                                    ) @ 0x000f70c0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 AWARD  AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x13ff3000
ACPI: FADT (v001 AWARD  AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x13ff3040
ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA693 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000a) @ 0x00000000
Building zonelist for node : 0
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux2_6fb root=304 video=matroxfb:off root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4 resume=/dev/hda2
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes)
Detected 368.511 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 720.89 BogoMIPS
Memory: 319716k/327616k available (2503k kernel code, 7144k reserved, 879k data, 160k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
-> /dev
-> /dev/console
-> /root
CPU:     After generic identify, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU:     After vendor identify, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 128K
CPU:     After all inits, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000040
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 05
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PM: Adding info for No Bus:legacy
Initializing RT netlink socket
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb2b0, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
BIO: pool of 256 setup, 14Kb (56 bytes/bio)
biovec pool[0]:   1 bvecs: 256 entries (12 bytes)
biovec pool[1]:   4 bvecs: 256 entries (48 bytes)
biovec pool[2]:  16 bvecs: 256 entries (192 bytes)
biovec pool[3]:  64 bvecs: 256 entries (768 bytes)
biovec pool[4]: 128 bvecs: 256 entries (1536 bytes)
biovec pool[5]: 256 bvecs: 256 entries (3072 bytes)
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030813
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fbed0
PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf0000:0xbef8, dseg 0xf0000
PM: Adding info for No Bus:pnp0
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:00
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:01
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:02
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:03
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:04
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:05
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:06
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:07
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:08
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:09
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:0c
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:0d
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:0e
PM: Adding info for pnp:00:10
PnPBIOS: 14 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 14 recorded by driver
ACPI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries
PCI: Invalid ACPI-PCI IRQ routing table
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PM: Adding info for No Bus:pci0000:00
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:00.0
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:01.0
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.0
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.1
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.2
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.3
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.4
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:07.5
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:0a.0
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:00:0b.0
PM: Adding info for pci:0000:01:00.0
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 0000:00:07.0
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
devfs: v1.22 (20021013) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
Initializing Cryptographic API
PM: Adding info for No Bus:pnp1
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Real Time Clock Driver v1.11a
Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 262M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe0000000
[drm] Initialized mga 3.1.0 20021029 on minor 0
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ IRQ sharing disabled
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Universal TUN/TAP device driver 1.5 (C)1999-2002 Maxim Krasnyansky
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:07.1
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 1b) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci0000:00:07.1
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: ST380011A, ATA DISK drive
PM: Adding info for No Bus:ide0
Using anticipatory scheduling elevator
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
PM: Adding info for ide:0.0
hdc: 8X4X32, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
PM: Adding info for No Bus:ide1
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
PM: Adding info for ide:1.0
hda: max request size: 1024KiB
hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(66)
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4
hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 8192kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
input: AT Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Wed Aug 20 20:27:13 2003 UTC).
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 0000:00:0b.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 0000:00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 0000:00:07.3
ALSA device list:
  #0: Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1370 at 0xec00, irq 10
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 65536)
ip_conntrack version 2.1 (2559 buckets, 20472 max) - 300 bytes per conntrack
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
Initializing IPsec netlink socket
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
IPv6 v0.8 for NET4.0
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
NET4: Ethernet Bridge 008 for NET4.0
Bridge firewalling registered
swsusp: Resume From Partition: /dev/hda2, Device: hda2
Resume Machine: This is normal swap space
Resume Machine: Error -22 resuming
found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal
Reiserfs journal params: device hda4, size 8192, journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit age 30, max trans age 30
reiserfs: checking transaction log (hda4) for (hda4)
Using r5 hash to sort names
VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 160k freed
blk: queue d3de4800, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
Adding 506036k swap on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2.  Priority:2 extents:1
SGI XFS for Linux with ACLs, no debug enabled
XFS mounting filesystem hda3
Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: hda3
PM: Adding info for No Bus:i2c-0
registering 0-6000
PM: Adding info for i2c:0-6000
Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c040d580(lo)
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26
PCI: Found IRQ 12 for device 0000:00:0a.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 12 with 0000:00:07.5
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xd4948000, 00:06:4f:00:e8:99, IRQ 12
eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
eth0: Setting half-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 0000.
Disabled Privacy Extensions on device d34d3c00(sxb0)
process `syslogd' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT
drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbfs
drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub
drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.1
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 0000:00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 0000:00:07.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 0000:00:0b.0
uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.2: irq 10, io base 0000d400
uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
PM: Adding info for usb:usb1
hub 1-0:0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:0: 2 ports detected
PM: Adding info for usb:1-0:0
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 0000:00:07.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 0000:00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 0000:00:0b.0
uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.3: UHCI Host Controller
uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.3: irq 10, io base 0000d800
uhci-hcd 0000:00:07.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
PM: Adding info for usb:usb2
hub 2-0:0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:0: 2 ports detected
PM: Adding info for usb:2-0:0
PCI: Found IRQ 12 for device 0000:00:07.5
PCI: Sharing IRQ 12 with 0000:00:0a.0
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:07.5 to 64
agpgart: Found an AGP 1.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0.
agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 2x mode
agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 2x mode

[-- Attachment #5: lspci.txt --]
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00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev 44)
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR+
	Latency: 0
	Region 0: Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
	Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 1.0
		Status: RQ=8 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2
		Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP+ GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=x2

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
	Memory behind bridge: e4000000-e7ffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e8000000-e9ffffff
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA+ VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
	Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 1b)
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686/A PCI to ISA Bridge
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 0

00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32
	Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=16]
	Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 0e) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32, cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 10
	Region 4: I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
	Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 0e) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32, cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 10
	Region 4: I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
	Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 20)
	Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Interrupt: pin ? routed to IRQ 9

00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 21)
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 12
	Region 0: I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
	Region 1: I/O ports at e000 [size=4]
	Region 2: I/O ports at e400 [size=4]
	Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RT8139
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 12
	Region 0: I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
	Region 1: Memory at ea000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0-,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI]
	Subsystem: Unknown device 4942:4c4c
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 64 (3000ns min, 32000ns max)
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
	Region 0: I/O ports at ec00 [size=64]

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
	Subsystem: Matrox Graphics, Inc. Millennium G550 Dual Head DDR 32Mb
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 64 (4000ns min, 8000ns max), cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
	Region 1: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Region 2: Memory at e5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M]
	Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Capabilities: [f0] AGP version 2.0
		Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2
		Command: RQ=8 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP+ GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=x2


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* RE: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
@ 2003-08-23 16:47 Brown, Len
  2003-08-23 16:59 ` Tomasz Torcz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brown, Len @ 2003-08-23 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Torcz, LKML, acpi-devel

If you're using run-time ACPI features, you'll probably want to
make sure that your MB BIOS is the latest available.

I didn't see which VIA 693 MB you've got, but it could be that a
BIOS upgrade would move it from 09/13/00 to something past 1/1/2001 --
the (yes, arbitrary) cutoff for enabling ACPI by default.

Or you could add "acpi=force" to your command line, as suggested in the
dmesg output.

Or you could change the source to alter or disable #define
ACPI_BLACKLIST_CUTOFF_YEAR 2001

If your system misbehaves when ACPI is enabled by one of these methods,
please let me know.

Thanks,
-Len


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomasz Torcz [mailto:zdzichu@irc.pl] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:53 AM
> To: LKML
> Subject: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am using ACPI for few years now. As far as I can see, on my
> machine it is only usfeul for binding events to Power button (like
> running fbdump) and for powering off. I'm also experimenting
> with swsusp, which I run by /proc/acpi/sleep.
> 
> 2.6.0-test4 has a surprise for me:
> 
> Linux version 2.6.0-test4 (zdzichu@mother) (gcc version 
> 3.3.1) #15 Sat Aug 23 12:03:
> 02 CEST 2003
> Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
> BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
>  BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable)
>  BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
>  BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000013ff0000 (usable)
>  BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff0000 - 0000000013ff3000 (ACPI NVS)
>  BIOS-e820: 0000000013ff3000 - 0000000014000000 (ACPI data)
>  BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
> 319MB LOWMEM available.
> On node 0 totalpages: 81904
>   DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
>   Normal zone: 77808 pages, LIFO batch:16
>   HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
> DMI 2.1 present.
> ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You can enable it with acpi=force
> ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA693                                    ) 
> @ 0x000f70c0
> ACPI: RSDT (v001 AWARD  AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) 
> @ 0x13ff3000
> ACPI: FADT (v001 AWARD  AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) 
> @ 0x13ff3040
> ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA693 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000a) 
> @ 0x00000000
> 
> WTF? My BIOS was perfectly good all those years! And no, there is
> no upgrade for my motherboard available. Using acpi=force is ugly
> and un-understandable.
> 
> There are also some strange directories in /proc :
> dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 Aug 23 12:50 
> /proc/ac_adapter/
> dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 Aug 23 12:50 /proc/fan
> 
> they are empty, but they should be in /proc/acpi/
> 
> Attached files:
> Output from dmidecode, lspci -v, my dmesg and /proc/cpuinfo
> 
> [Please CC me on replies. Thank you].
> 
> -- 
> Tomasz Torcz                 "God, root, what's the difference?" 
> zdzichu@irc.-nie.spam-.pl         "God is more forgiving."   
> 

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* RE: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
@ 2003-08-23 20:58 Brown, Len
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brown, Len @ 2003-08-23 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Torcz; +Cc: LKML, acpi-devel

manually modifying ACPI_BLACKLIST_CUTOFF_YEAR and using acpi=force on
the cmdline should have the same effect.

pci=noacpi is also an option.  If it works, then it means you got burnt
by ACPI's PCI interrupt code.  We've had trouble with Award/VIA in this
area recently, so it wouldn't be surprising to have trouble with a
3-year old Award/VIA BIOS.  The puzzling thing is why ACPI enabled
worked for you before and doesn't work now.

I'd be interested in looking over a copy of your /proc/acpi/dsdt, or
even better, the output from acpidmp, which you can get from the pmtools
package here:
http://developer.intel.com/technology/iapc/acpi/downloads/pmtools-200107
30.tar.gz


Thanks,
-Len

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomasz Torcz [mailto:zdzichu@irc.pl] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:59 PM
> To: Brown, Len
> Cc: LKML
> Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 12:47:04PM -0400, Brown, Len wrote:
>  
> > I didn't see which VIA 693 MB you've got, but it could be that a
> > BIOS upgrade would move it from 09/13/00 to something past 
> 1/1/2001 --
> > the (yes, arbitrary) cutoff for enabling ACPI by default.
> 
> It's Matsonic 7132A (http://www.matsonic.com/ms7132a.htm ; 
> http://206.135.80.155/manual/ms7132a.pdf).
> Pretty nice board. Latest bios for it is dated 09/13/00 and
> there is no upgrade.
>  
> > Or you could add "acpi=force" to your command line, as 
> suggested in the
> > dmesg output.
> 
> Tried this with strange results - kernel halted during boot,
> after displaying:
> 
> [... dmesg ...]
> PM: Adding info for ide:1.0
> hda: max request size: 1024KiB
> hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, 
> CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(66)
>  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4
> hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 8192kB Cache, DMA
> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
> mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
> 
> HALT. No sysrq, no shift+pgup, no response for power button.
> 
> Dmesg _without_ acpi=force: 
> 
> hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 8192kB Cache, DMA
> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
> mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
> serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
> input: AT Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
> serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.9.6 (Wed 
> Aug 20 20:27:13 2003 UTC).
> PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 0000:00:0b.0
> 
> And so on.
> 
> > Or you could change the source to alter or disable #define
> > ACPI_BLACKLIST_CUTOFF_YEAR 2001
> 
> I will try this next. ACPI was working flawlessly for me almost from
> the beginning.
> 
> -- 
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* RE: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
@ 2003-08-23 22:31 Brown, Len
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brown, Len @ 2003-08-23 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Torcz; +Cc: LKML, acpi-devel

Tomasz,
I'm glad that 'acpi=force pci=noacpi' got your system up and running.


Andrew is right, needing acpi=force is intentional due to the age of the
system --
we're running away from aging broken BIOS's that vendors
refuse to update, and we need to draw the line someplace.
Some say that the 2001 should really be 2002...

But, needing pci=noacpi if you successfully ran with ACPI enabled before
would be a regression.

Thanks for sending the acpidmp output.
The DSDT shows Award's "VT86" PIRQ mapping code that we've been
struggling with recently.
Indeed, the lastest ACPI patch seems to help the modern descendents of
your machine.
But I don't see any obvious errors in the AML for the interrupt part on
your box.

Using IASL to re-build your disassembled DSDT showed some static errors
that will kill you if you hit them them at run time.  If you really want
to use ACPI for run-time features on this box you'd probably need to
modify your DSDT and over-ride it for starters.  There are a number of
web pages devoted to that hobby.

I'm more interested in the interrupt issue.  If you'd like to help us
debug it, then please file a bug at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/
Category: power management, componenet: ACPI and attach your dmidecode
and acpidmp output.  The next piece to get would be the console messages
from the failing case -- you'd need a serial console to capture them.

Thanks,
-Len

lenb@dhcppc4:/smb/tomasz.torcz> acpixtract DSDT acpidmp >DSDT
lenb@dhcppc4:/smb/tomasz.torcz> iasl -d DSDT

Intel ACPI Component Architecture
ASL Optimizing Compiler / AML Disassembler version 20030522 [May 23
2003]
Copyright (C) 2000 - 2003 Intel Corporation
Supports ACPI Specification Revision 2.0b

Loading Acpi table from file DSDT
Acpi table [DSDT] successfully installed and loaded
Pass 1 parse of [DSDT]
Pass 2 parse of [DSDT]
Parsing Deferred Opcodes (Methods/Buffers/Packages/Regions)
........................................................................
...........................................................
Parsing completed
Disassembly completed, written to "DSDT.dsl"
lenb@dhcppc4:/smb/tomasz.torcz>
lenb@dhcppc4:/smb/tomasz.torcz> ls
DSDT  DSDT.dsl  acpidisasm  acpidmp  dmesg.pcinoacpi.acpioff  dsdt
lenb@dhcppc4:/smb/tomasz.torcz> iasl DSDT.dsl

Intel ACPI Component Architecture
ASL Optimizing Compiler / AML Disassembler version 20030522 [May 23
2003]
Copyright (C) 2000 - 2003 Intel Corporation
Supports ACPI Specification Revision 2.0b

DSDT.dsl   257:     Method (\_WAK, 1, NotSerialized)
Warning  2026 -                 ^ Reserved method must return a value
(_WAK)

DSDT.dsl   269:             Store (Local0, Local0)
Error    1013 -                         ^ Method local variable is not
initialized (Local0)

DSDT.dsl   277:             Store (Local0, Local0)
Error    1013 -                         ^ Method local variable is not
initialized (Local0)

DSDT.dsl  1761:                         Store (Local0, Local0)
Error    1013 -                                     ^ Method local
variable is not initialized (Local0)

DSDT.dsl  1995:                     Method (_STA, 0, NotSerialized)
Warning  2019 -                                ^ Not all control paths
return a value (_STA)

DSDT.dsl  1995:                     Method (_STA, 0, NotSerialized)
Warning  2026 -                                ^ Reserved method must
return a value (_STA)

ASL Input:  DSDT.dsl - 2203 lines, 75934 bytes, 987 keywords
Compilation complete. 3 Errors, 3 Warnings, 0 Remarks, 235 Optimizations
lenb@dhcppc4:/smb/tomasz.torcz>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomasz Torcz [mailto:zdzichu@irc.pl] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 5:38 PM
> To: Brown, Len
> Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 04:58:00PM -0400, Brown, Len wrote:
> > pci=noacpi is also an option.  If it works, then it means 
> you got burnt
> > by ACPI's PCI interrupt code. 
> 
> Good shot! With 'acpi=force pci=noacpi' it booted ok and works.
> I've attached dmesg FYI.
> 
> > We've had trouble with Award/VIA in this
> > area recently, so it wouldn't be surprising to have trouble with a
> > 3-year old Award/VIA BIOS.  The puzzling thing is why ACPI enabled
> > worked for you before and doesn't work now.
> 
> I can test patches. Unfortunetely I'm not good enough programmer to 
> create them.
>  
> > I'd be interested in looking over a copy of your /proc/acpi/dsdt, or
> > even better, the output from acpidmp,
> 
> Attached (gzipped)
> 
> -- 
> Tomasz Torcz               RIP is irrevelant. Spoofing is futile.
> zdzichu@irc.-nie.spam-.pl     Your routes will be 
> aggreggated. -- Alex Yuriev
> 

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* Re: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI
@ 2003-08-24  2:07 Felipe Alfaro Solana
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Felipe Alfaro Solana @ 2003-08-24  2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomasz Torcz, LKML

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tomasz Torcz <zdzichu@irc.pl> 
Date: 	Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:04:38 +0200 
To: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.redhat.com> 
Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test4 - lost ACPI 
 
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 02:55:45PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: 
> > Tomasz Torcz <zdzichu@irc.pl> wrote: 
> >  
> > >  ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old 
> > >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> >  
> > Add "acpi=force" to your kernel boot command line and everything should work 
> > as before. 
>  
> It does not work. It halts in beetween ps/2 mouse init and serio init. 
> Adding "acpi=force pci=noacpi" solves that. 
 
Yeah! I have the same problem on my P4 box. Please, take a look at: 
 
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1123ml/ 
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