From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264459AbTIDAh2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 20:37:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264460AbTIDAh2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 20:37:28 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:14574 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264459AbTIDAh0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 20:37:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 17:36:33 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: Larry McVoy , "Brown, Len" , Giuliano Pochini , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Scaling noise Message-ID: <20030904003633.GA5227@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , "Martin J. Bligh" , Larry McVoy , "Brown, Len" , Giuliano Pochini , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030903173213.GC5769@work.bitmover.com> <89360000.1062613076@flay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <89360000.1062613076@flay> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 11:17:56AM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > Errm, IBM is gambling with _their_ money, as are others such as HP, > and they're making big iron. But making very little money off of it. I'd love to get revenue numbers as a function of time for >8 processor SMP boxes. I'll bet my left nut that the numbers are going down. They have to be, CPUs are fast enough to handle most problems, clustering has worked for lots of big companies like Google, Amazon, Yahoo, and the HPC market has been flat for years. So where's the growth? Nowhere I can see. If I'm not seeing it, show me the data. I may be a pain in the ass but I'll change my mind instantly when you show me data that says something different than what I believe. So far, all I've seen is people having fun proving that their ego is bigger than the next guys, no real data. Come on, you'd love nothing better than to prove me wrong. Do it. Or admit that you can't. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm