From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261871AbTI0UMy (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261918AbTI0UMy (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:54 -0400 Received: from holomorphy.com ([66.224.33.161]:20892 "EHLO holomorphy") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261871AbTI0UMx (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:13:47 -0700 From: William Lee Irwin III To: "Ihar 'Philips' Filipau" Cc: Roger Luethi , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] No Swap. Re: [BUG 2.6.90-test5] kernel shits itself with 48mb ram under moderate load Message-ID: <20030927201347.GM4306@holomorphy.com> Mail-Followup-To: William Lee Irwin III , Ihar 'Philips' Filipau , Roger Luethi , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <3F75EC3B.4030305@softhome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F75EC3B.4030305@softhome.net> Organization: The Domain of Holomorphy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 09:59:55PM +0200, Ihar 'Philips' Filipau wrote: > Sorry, I even marked $subject as [OT]. > I'm answering the question '2.4 without swap' - Yes. It is. Works. > No problems. > 'Paging like crazy' became for me a synonym of Linux. It > doesn't matter how much memory you have. Less == worse. Developers > stopped testing VMM regression on low-memory computers long time ago. > We have now fashion for clusters and numas. And a lot of swap > on very fast raids. After all it is cheap. Just > couple of thousands greenbacks. It was really > funny when developers on LKML were sugesting to buy another hdd for > swap. Very funny. > Unfortunately I'm not a specialist in VMM... > As I see there is not that much edge case testing going around. It's known what has to be done for it. AFAICT upstream doesn't like the answers and just says "throw hardware at it". I've written it off as a lost cause, though I was at one time interested. -- wli