From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264301AbTKMOo4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264303AbTKMOo4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:56 -0500 Received: from DELFT.AURA.CS.CMU.EDU ([128.2.206.88]:16107 "EHLO delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264301AbTKMOoy (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:54 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arch Users Mailing List Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air Message-ID: <20031113144454.GA2502@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arch Users Mailing List References: <87r80c5sqp.wl@drakkar.ibe.miee.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r80c5sqp.wl@drakkar.ibe.miee.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Jan Harkes Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:59:42PM +0300, Samium Gromoff wrote: > Okay, folks. Now i propose to go further than that. > > I hope that Larry recognises that at some point the linux kernel community > _will_ switch to a free software alternative. > > I think we should have a better choice than the lossy bk->cvs. > > I propose we as a whole ask Larry to create a bk->arch gateway _not_ via cvs > but directly, and therefore using all the extended metadata possible. I appreciate Arch and am actually using it for some things, and can't give an educated opinion on BK as I have never used it. But this is just ridiculous. First of all, there always serious pain in switching. Whatever free alternative is provided better be _a lot_ better compared to what is currently used. And although Arch might be more in-line with the political goals of many developers, frankly I don't believe Arch is technologically there yet. But then asking Larry to implement a gateway seems to be the plan of the century. Hey why doesn't Larry help out with the Arch or SVN effort while he's at it? How would you react if ClearCase started demanding that Arch/SVN/CVS developers should implement a one-directional gateway to their software to make it easier for people to migrate. Jan