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From: Bradley Chapman <kakadu_croc@yahoo.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What exactly are the issues with 2.6.0-test10 preempt?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:45:14 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031124224514.56242.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311241429330.15101@home.osdl.org>

Mr. Torvalds,

--- Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Bradley Chapman wrote:
> >
> > What sort of information would you like me to provide, sir? The bug you're
> > discussing here isn't affecting me; CONFIG_PREEMPT has been solid on
> 2.6.0-test10.
> > This is on a Gateway 600S laptop with a P4-M 2Ghz processor and an i845
> Brookdale
> > chipset.
> 
> Basically, there's something strange going on, which _seems_ to be memory
> corruption, and seems to correlate reasonable well (but not 100%) with
> CONFIG_PREEMPT.

Ah, I see. I thought there was a definite issue with a certain subsystem that
just hadn't been fixed yet when CONFIG_PREEMPT=y.

> 
> It's actually unlikely to be preemption itself that is broken: it's much
> more likely that some driver or other subsystem is broken, and preempt is
> just better at triggering it by making some race conditions much easier to
> see due to bigger windows for them to happen.
> 
> The problem is finding enough of a pattern to the reports to make sense of
> what seems to be the common thread. A lot of people use preemption without
> any trouble.

Indeed. Do the same subsystems usually show the memory corruption issue with
preempt active, or does it just pop up all over the place, unpredictably?

> 
> 		Linus

Brad


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-24 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-24 19:14 What exactly are the issues with 2.6.0-test10 preempt? Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 21:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-24 21:29   ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 21:47     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-24 21:55       ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 21:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-24 22:26     ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 22:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-24 22:45         ` Bradley Chapman [this message]
2003-11-24 23:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-24 23:45             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-25  7:55         ` Jos Hulzink
2003-11-24 22:41       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-11-24 22:51         ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-25  1:37           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-11-25 17:22           ` bill davidsen
2003-11-24 22:57     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-25  7:17     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-25 16:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-30  9:09 ` Matthias Urlichs
     [not found] <20031124224514.56242.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311241452550.15101@home.osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-11-24 23:50   ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-25  0:00     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-25  0:05       ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-25  0:16         ` Chris Mason
2003-11-25 18:13 kernel
2003-11-25 18:14 root
2003-11-25 18:31 kernel
2003-11-26  9:30 ` Jens Axboe

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