From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268049AbUHQAYb (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:24:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268039AbUHQAXJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:23:09 -0400 Received: from web14923.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.225.7]:8121 "HELO web14923.mail.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S268042AbUHQAWm (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:22:42 -0400 Message-ID: <20040817002242.14379.qmail@web14923.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:22:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon Smirl Subject: DRM and probing (was: your mail) To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Dave Airlie , torvalds@osdl.org, Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Building a shared stub driver that fbdev and DRM both use is just a waste of time. While it may simplify probing in the current model it does nothing to fix the conflicting use of registers and framebuffer memory management. The stub driver approach touches about 25 device drivers and would be a huge testing problem. Probing is not what crashes systems; the other two issues cause the crashes. Please read the overall plan for fixing things: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/8/2/111 We welcome anyone who wants to help work on the solution. That list is not set in stone but many, many people have reviewed and commented on it. It was started in March and it has under gone many revisions. If you think there are problems with this plan please let us know now since several of the items have already been written and others are being worked on. Most graphics discussion and review happens on dri-dev and fb-dev not lkml. ===== Jon Smirl jonsmirl@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail