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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	hugang@soulinfo.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: Suspend 2 merge
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:54:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041126155443.GA9341@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041126123847.GD1028@elf.ucw.cz>

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 01:38:48PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Again, when you're running on limited time, twice as fast is still twice
> > as fast.
> 
> My machine suspends in 7 seconds, and that's swsusp1. According to
> your numbers, suspend2 should suspend it in 1 second and LZE
> compressed should be .5 second.
> 
> I'd say "who cares". 7 seconds seems like fast enough for me. And I'm
> *not* going to add 2000 lines of code for 500msec speedup during
> suspend.

Yupp.  Premature optimization is the roo of all evil.  swsusp is

 a) an absolute slowpath compared to any normal kernel operation,
    and called extremly seldomly
 b) only usefull for a small subset of all linux instances

hacking core code (fastpathes) for speedups there is a really bad idea.
If you can speed it up without beeing intrusive all power to you.

> > I'm trying not to make assumptions about how we're writing the image,
> > either. If you want to pipe your image over a network to some server,
> > you should be able to, and not have to implement compression again in
> > the writer for that.
> 
> Suspend-over-network is obscure-enough
> feature. Compressed-suspend-over-network is even worse.
> 
> BTW my feeling is that if you want to do suspend-over-network, you
> should just modify nbd to work with suspend2 and stop adding
> special-purpose code to suspend.

Honestly I think it's a feature so obscure that we wouldn't ever want to
merge it unless it just happens to work as a fallout of a more important
feature.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-27  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 245+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-24 12:56 Suspend 2 merge Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:56 ` Suspend2 merge: 1/51: Device trees Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:56 ` Suspend2 merge: 2/51: Find class by name Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 3/51: e820 table support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:53   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 4/51: Get module list Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:25     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:32       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 5/51: Workthread freezer support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:57   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 7/51: Reboot handler hook Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:19     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  2:37       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 8/51: /proc/acpi/sleep hook Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 9/51: init/* changes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 17:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:36     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:45       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:51         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:58           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:03             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:30               ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  2:14     ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-27  7:22       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  9:31         ` Herbert Xu
2004-11-27 13:21           ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-27 16:20             ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:43             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 10/51: Exports for suspend built as modules Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 21:52     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 14:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 20:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:40     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:50       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 11/51: Export vt functions Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge:L 12/51: Disable OOM killer when suspending Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:12   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:47     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 13/51: Disable highmem tlb flush for copyback Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:13   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 14/51: Disable page alloc failure message when suspending Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 14:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:00   ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-24 21:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 22:25       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-25 18:15   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:49     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:46         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:22           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 15/51: Disable pdflush during suspend Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 16/51: Disable cache reaping " Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:18   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 17/51: Disable MCE checking " Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:19   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:05     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:31       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:38         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:45           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 18/51: Debug page_alloc support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:02   ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 22:26       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-25 18:21   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 19/51: Remove MTRR sysdev support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:27   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:22   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:34     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 20/51: Timer freezer (experimental) Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 21/51: Refrigerator upgrade Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:33   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:10     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:36       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:49         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:25           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:49             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:05               ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:12                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27 17:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 21:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 22/51: Suspend2 lowlevel code Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:42   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:20     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:55       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:56         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:39   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:38       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 23/51: PPC support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:40   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 24/51: Keyboard and serial console hooks Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 18:47     ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2004-11-24 21:38     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:57     ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-24 23:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-25  1:22         ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-25 10:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-26 20:21         ` pb
2004-11-25 19:28     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-28 23:39         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29 22:15           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 25/51: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 26/51: Kconfig and makefile Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:34   ` Roman Zippel
2004-11-24 21:11     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:46       ` Roman Zippel
2004-11-24 21:53         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  2:37     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 27/51: Block I/O module Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 28/51: Suspend memory pool hooks Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:34   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 29/51: Clear swapfile bdev in swapoff Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 30/51: Enable slab alloc fallback to suspend memory pool Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 31/51: Export tlb flushing Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 15:32   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-24 21:04     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 32/51: Make show task non-static Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 33/51: More documentation Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 34/51: Includes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 23:19       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-25  2:43         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 35/51: Code always built in to the kernel Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:32   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:57     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:08       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:17         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:23           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  2:19       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-28 22:39         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27  9:00       ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-27 17:22         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 36/51: Highlevel I/O routines Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  1:39     ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 37/51: Memory pool support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:37   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 38/51: Page directory support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 39/51: Plugins support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 40/51: Prepare image Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 41/51: Ranges (extents) Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 42/51: Suspend.c Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:52   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:23     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:43   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 43/51: Utility functions Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:46   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:04     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27 16:11       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-28 21:36         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 44/51: Text UI plugin Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 45/51: Bootsplash support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 46/51: LZF support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 23:01   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-11-25  2:38     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  6:32       ` hugang
2004-11-25  6:52         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-25  7:07           ` hugang
2004-11-25 10:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 47/51: GZIP support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:50   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 48/51: Swapwriter Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:55   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:05     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 49/51: Checksumming Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:14       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29  9:55   ` Rob Landley
2004-11-30  0:24     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 23:30       ` Rob Landley
2004-11-30  0:49         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 13:07           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 21:45             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 13:02     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 13:38       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-30 22:38         ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-02 21:31       ` Rob Landley
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 50/51: Device mapper support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:58   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:07     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-02 20:40       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-02 21:04         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-02 21:49           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-02 22:08             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-03 17:47               ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-03 19:57                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-03 20:12                   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-14  0:47                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:03 ` Suspend 2 merge: 51/51: Notes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:01   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:09     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:24       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:03 ` Suspend 2 merge: 6/51 Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:28 ` Suspend 2 merge Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:46   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:20     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:22         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:46           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:39             ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  9:08               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26 12:38                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 15:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2004-11-26 22:36                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:35                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-28 23:55                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29  3:20                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 13:03                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30  0:24                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 10:19                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20041126082109.GA842@hugang.soulinfo.com>
2004-11-26 13:25                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20041126043203.GA2713@hugang.soulinfo.com>
2004-11-26  9:08                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26 13:37                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 13:31                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 21:40               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29  9:34             ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-11-29 22:20               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 22:34                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 12:16                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-11-30 21:16                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 22:20                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-01  9:27                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-01 10:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-01 20:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27 22:07 linux
2004-11-27 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28  8:29 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-11-28 11:37   ` Pavel Machek

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