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From: Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
To: Tomas Carnecky <tom@dbservice.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	ecki-news2004-05@lina.inka.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Problem with ioctl command TCGETS
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:11:59 +0000
Message-ID: <20041128131159.GC26051@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41A9CD78.1050002@dbservice.com>

On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:07:04PM +0100, Tomas Carnecky wrote:
> >Think read(2)/write(2).  We already have several barfbags too many,
> >and that includes both ioctl() and setsockopt().  We are stuck with
> >them for compatibility reasons, but why the hell would we need yet
> >another one?
> 
> And what's the option? So without ioctl, how would you reaplace this:
> ioctl(cdrom_fd, CDROMEJECT, 0)?

Which part of "we are stuck with them" is not clear enough?  If you insist
on using the same descriptor for data and for out-of-band mess - no, you
can't get anything saner.  If you do not, you can; it's that simple...

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-28  0:22 Ozan Eren Bilgen
2004-11-28  0:39 ` Al Viro
2004-11-28  9:59   ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-28 10:08     ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-28 10:18       ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-28 10:28     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-11-28 10:56       ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-11-28 11:52         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-11-28 11:22       ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-28 12:18         ` Al Viro
2004-11-28 12:32           ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-28 12:48             ` Al Viro
2004-11-28 12:52               ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-28 13:03                 ` Al Viro
2004-11-28 14:30                   ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-28 15:27                     ` Al Viro
2004-11-28 18:23                       ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-28 18:51                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-12-10  4:01                   ` Ingo Oeser
2004-11-28 13:20                 ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-28 14:05                   ` Al Viro
2004-11-28 13:07           ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-28 13:11             ` Al Viro [this message]
2004-11-28 13:19               ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-28 17:42           ` Alan Cox
2004-11-30 13:26           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 15:46             ` Al Viro
2004-11-28 12:23         ` Bernd Eckenfels

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