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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:11:59 +0000
From: Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
To: Tomas Carnecky <tom@dbservice.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, ecki-news2004-05@lina.inka.de,
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Subject: Re: Problem with ioctl command TCGETS
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On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:07:04PM +0100, Tomas Carnecky wrote:
> >Think read(2)/write(2).  We already have several barfbags too many,
> >and that includes both ioctl() and setsockopt().  We are stuck with
> >them for compatibility reasons, but why the hell would we need yet
> >another one?
> 
> And what's the option? So without ioctl, how would you reaplace this:
> ioctl(cdrom_fd, CDROMEJECT, 0)?

Which part of "we are stuck with them" is not clear enough?  If you insist
on using the same descriptor for data and for out-of-band mess - no, you
can't get anything saner.  If you do not, you can; it's that simple...