From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261447AbVACNrc (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:47:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261448AbVACNrc (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:47:32 -0500 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:43780 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261447AbVACNr3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:47:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:47:27 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: Diego Calleja Cc: Willy Tarreau , wli@holomorphy.com, davidsen@tmr.com, aebr@win.tue.nl, solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: starting with 2.7 Message-ID: <20050103134727.GA2980@stusta.de> References: <20050102221534.GG4183@stusta.de> <41D87A64.1070207@tmr.com> <20050103003011.GP29332@holomorphy.com> <20050103004551.GK4183@stusta.de> <20050103011935.GQ29332@holomorphy.com> <20050103053304.GA7048@alpha.home.local> <20050103142412.490239b8.diegocg@teleline.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050103142412.490239b8.diegocg@teleline.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 02:24:12PM +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > El Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:33:04 +0100 Willy Tarreau escribió: > > > I clearly don't agree with you, for a simple reason : those out-of-tree > > features will always be, because each distro likes to add a few features, > > like SquashFS, PaX, etc... And indeed, that's one of the reasons I *stay* > > on 2.4. It's so simple to simply upgrade the kernel, patch and recompile > > without spending days complaining "grrr... why did they change this ?". > > > 2.6 will stop having small issues in each release until 2.7 is forked just > like 2.4 broke things until 2.5 was forked. The difference IMO > is that linux development now avoids things like the unstability which the > 2.4.10 changes caused and things like the fs corruption bugs we saw in 2.4 >... The 2.6.9 -> 2.6.10 patch is 28 MB, and while the changes that went into 2.4 were limited since the most invasive patches were postponed for 2.5, now _all_ patches go into 2.6 . Yes, -mm gives a bit more testing coverage, but it doesn't seem to be enough for this vast amount of changes. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed