From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261437AbVACNYa (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:24:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261440AbVACNY3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:24:29 -0500 Received: from smtp.terra.es ([213.4.129.129]:60733 "EHLO tsmtp2.mail.isp") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261437AbVACNYT convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:24:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:24:12 +0100 From: Diego Calleja To: Willy Tarreau Cc: wli@holomorphy.com, bunk@stusta.de, davidsen@tmr.com, aebr@win.tue.nl, solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: starting with 2.7 Message-Id: <20050103142412.490239b8.diegocg@teleline.es> In-Reply-To: <20050103053304.GA7048@alpha.home.local> References: <20050102221534.GG4183@stusta.de> <41D87A64.1070207@tmr.com> <20050103003011.GP29332@holomorphy.com> <20050103004551.GK4183@stusta.de> <20050103011935.GQ29332@holomorphy.com> <20050103053304.GA7048@alpha.home.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:33:04 +0100 Willy Tarreau escribió: > I clearly don't agree with you, for a simple reason : those out-of-tree > features will always be, because each distro likes to add a few features, > like SquashFS, PaX, etc... And indeed, that's one of the reasons I *stay* > on 2.4. It's so simple to simply upgrade the kernel, patch and recompile > without spending days complaining "grrr... why did they change this ?". 2.6 will stop having small issues in each release until 2.7 is forked just like 2.4 broke things until 2.5 was forked. The difference IMO is that linux development now avoids things like the unstability which the 2.4.10 changes caused and things like the fs corruption bugs we saw in 2.4 I fully agree with WLI that the 2.4 development model and the backporting-mania created more problems than it solved, because in the real world almost everybody uses what distros ship, and what distros ship isn't kernel.org but heavily modified kernels, which means that the kernel.org was not really "well-tested" or it took much longer to become "well-tested" because it wasn't really being used.