From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261611AbVADKTg (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:19:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261630AbVADKTg (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:19:36 -0500 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([212.18.232.186]:50954 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261611AbVADKT0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:19:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:19:21 +0000 From: Russell King To: Christoph Hellwig , Erik Mouw , Adrian Bunk , Domen Puncer , lkml Subject: Re: [patch] maintainers: remove moderated arm list Message-ID: <20050104101921.C9409@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Erik Mouw , Adrian Bunk , Domen Puncer , lkml References: <20041225170825.GA31577@nd47.coderock.org> <20041225172155.A26504@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20050103175438.GL2980@stusta.de> <20050104085437.GA26584@harddisk-recovery.com> <20050104090057.GA2035@infradead.org> <20050104092515.B9409@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20050104093326.GA2408@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20050104093326.GA2408@infradead.org>; from hch@infradead.org on Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 09:33:26AM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 09:33:26AM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 09:25:15AM +0000, Russell King wrote: > > In that case, you can personally choose not to send mail there anymore. > > It's completely up to you. No one is forcing you to send email to any > > address. > > I don't plan to force anyone to do anything with their mailinglists. > But we shouldn't mention lists with stupid policies as maintainer contacts. As Alan has already pointed out, there's more to the MAINTAINERS file than just pointing out to main line kernel developers where to send their patches. > > I don't care if you personally agree with that or not. That's not what > > it's about. It's about taking reasonable steps to cover ones own ass > > and the communities ass to ensure survival in silly-law environments. > > Maybe you should offshore your lists to conuntries with saner laws (or > at least to less obedient people..) s/or at least to less obedient people/and offshore the list administrators as well/ People seem rather unwilling to do so because it's a hell of a lot of hastle to look after properly. The suggestion has been made in the past and always comes to nothing. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: 2.6 PCMCIA - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/ 2.6 Serial core