From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261854AbVADUfa (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:35:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262153AbVADUf0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:35:26 -0500 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:62985 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261854AbVADUet (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:34:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:34:44 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: William Lee Irwin III Cc: Diego Calleja , Willy Tarreau , davidsen@tmr.com, aebr@win.tue.nl, solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: starting with 2.7 Message-ID: <20050104203444.GL3097@stusta.de> References: <20050103004551.GK4183@stusta.de> <20050103011935.GQ29332@holomorphy.com> <20050103053304.GA7048@alpha.home.local> <20050103142412.490239b8.diegocg@teleline.es> <20050103134727.GA2980@stusta.de> <20050104125738.GC2708@holomorphy.com> <20050104150810.GD3097@stusta.de> <20050104153445.GH2708@holomorphy.com> <20050104165301.GF3097@stusta.de> <20050104195725.GQ2708@holomorphy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050104195725.GQ2708@holomorphy.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:57:25AM -0800, William Lee Irwin III wrote: >... > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 05:53:01PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > And then there are issues that are not bugs in the code, but user errors > > that have to be avoided. An example is CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB in 2.6.9, which > > even the Debian kernel maintainers got wrong in the first kernel > > packages they did put into Debian unstable. > > PEBKAC is entirely out of the scope of any program not making direct > efforts at HCI. CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB was documented for what it was, and > users configuring kernels are not assumed to be naive. <-- snip --> config BLK_DEV_UB tristate "Low Performance USB Block driver" depends on USB help This driver supports certain USB attached storage devices such as flash keys. If unsure, say N. <-- snip --> Call me naive, but at least for me it wouldn't have been obvious that this option cripples the usb-storage driver. The warning that this option cripples the usb-storage driver was added after people who accidentially enabled this option ("it can't harm") in 2.6.9 swamped the USB maintainers with bug reports about problems with their storage devices. > -- wli cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed