From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262995AbVAFU40 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:56:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261173AbVAFUwk (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:52:40 -0500 Received: from [81.23.229.73] ([81.23.229.73]:37551 "EHLO mail.eduonline.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262995AbVAFUvR (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:51:17 -0500 From: Norbert van Nobelen Organization: EduSupport BV To: Lee Revell Subject: Re: Open hardware wireless cards Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 21:51:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050105200526.GL5159@ruslug.rutgers.edu> <200501062006.49542.norbert-kernel@edusupport.nl> <1105044024.15770.7.camel@krustophenia.net> In-Reply-To: <1105044024.15770.7.camel@krustophenia.net> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501062151.13882.norbert-kernel@edusupport.nl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Err, music, computers: Just spend a lot of time to get a series of thin clients running sound over a DSL network (now in testing phase, need to solve some network problems first :-( ) I think the idea for a good sound card is good too, I am only thinking different about the manufacturing. Ordering 100 cards is not going to be attractive in any way with price, then just use the conexant wrappers for windows drivers, and run your card that way. GPL is one issue, wallet content is the next following important issue. Wireless cards have to go cheaper all the time. One way to scrape of another 50cents of the manufacturing cost is by using an open developed card en driver. That way the card will lie in many stores and is easily obtainable for everybody. The extra encryption will get the phreaks on board with it, so spreading the idea of open source development even further, plus it is also a show and tell to the market like: Open source groups are innovative, and not just copycats who want everything for free (like in wallet content). On Thursday 06 January 2005 21:40, you wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 20:06 +0100, Norbert van Nobelen wrote: > > My personal opinion > > Sound is mainly integrated on boards. Since developing a high end card is > > not an easy job, and the market is pretty small for that (enough > > competition), I think the wireless card is not too weird to do > > Yeah but that's all useless to pro audio users. And the market for pro > audio hardware is a lot more like the general pro audio gear market than > the computer hardware market. Lower volume, much higher margins. > > Compared to the open video card project, this should be a no brainer, > and that seems to be taking off... > > > Plus wireless is hot. What we can do is implement the standard and add a > > little extra once we are done with that, linux a nice encryption layer > > for linux to linux communication, thus giving linux (or a windowsbox with > > the right drivers), a nice edge. > > There's a standard for audio-over-firewire but it's inadequate (no > routing/connection management) so you can't just implement it. Firewire or USB: I do not care for an antenna for the simple reason that I just want a powercord (-: > > Also making music with computers is pretty hot too if you haven't > noticed ;-) > > Lee -- EduSupport: Linux Desktop for schools and small to medium business in The Netherlands and Belgium