From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261304AbVCHESH (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:18:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261271AbVCHESH (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:18:07 -0500 Received: from fire.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:52708 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261316AbVCHERm (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:17:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 20:16:46 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: paul@linuxaudiosystems.com, mpm@selenic.com, joq@io.com, cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com, chrisw@osdl.org, hch@infradead.org, rlrevell@joe-job.com, arjanv@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] [request for inclusion] Realtime LSM Message-Id: <20050307201646.512a2471.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20050308035503.GA31704@infradead.org> References: <20050112185258.GG2940@waste.org> <200501122116.j0CLGK3K022477@localhost.localdomain> <20050307195020.510a1ceb.akpm@osdl.org> <20050308035503.GA31704@infradead.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 07:50:20PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > So I still have the rt-lsm patch floating about, saying "merge me, merge > > me!". I'm not sure that the world would end were I to do so. > > > > Consider this a prod in the direction of those who were pushing > > alternatives ;) > > It's still a really bad idea. It solves a real problem and is well encapsulated. The world won't end if we merge it. Still. My point is: we're still awaiting anything better and thei is just hanging around and hanging around. > You let the magic gid for oracle hugetlb > patch go in with that reasonsing Which continues to cause zero problems. > now ew have relatime-lsm, Not yet. > next we > $CAPABILITY for $FOO and we're headed straight to interface-hell. "interface hell"? Wow. Still. It seems to be what we deserve if all that fancy stuff we have cannot address this very simple and very real-world problem.