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To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Devices behind PCI Express-to-PCI bridge not mapped
Date: 11 Jun 2005 05:33:31 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050611053331.9203.qmail@science.horizon.com> (raw)

Linus wrote:
> It would be pretty strange, since the PCI spec (afaik, and for pretty
> obvious reasons) disallows two negative bridges on the same bus (and you
> already have the other mobile bridge there), but it's technically possible
> if they just have different priorities for how fast they react to a PCI
> address cycle and claim it.

Actually, that's not possible, because no difference is permitted.

When the initiator drives an address, there are 4 cycles during which
a targer can assert DEVSEL# to indicate that it will claim the bus
cycle.  The first three are known as "fast", "medium", and "slow", and
are for normal devices.

The fourth cycle us reserved for subtractive decode.  A subtractive decode
devices must assert DEVSEL# on this cycle and no other.  (If and only if
no other device has claimed it by asserting DEVSEL# already.)

On the fifth cycle, the initiator is permitted to perform a master abort
and fail the operation.  Because the initator could be any random bus master
card, cards are going to be installed in a system, you can't rely on it
giving a bridge any longer to assert DEVSEL#.

             reply	other threads:[~2005-06-11  5:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-11  5:33 linux [this message]
2005-06-11 10:26 ` PROBLEM: Devices behind PCI Express-to-PCI bridge not mapped Ivan Kokshaysky
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-03 23:28 Andreas Koch
2005-06-04  0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-04  1:33   ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-04  1:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-04  2:26       ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-04  4:50         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-04 15:57           ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-05 16:46             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-06  0:27               ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-06 14:43                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-08 17:34                   ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-08 22:36                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-09  0:29                       ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-09  4:04                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-09 13:54                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-09 17:54                           ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-09 22:38                             ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-09 23:20                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-10 14:33                                 ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-10 14:48                                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-10 20:47                                   ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-10 23:50                                     ` Sean Bruno
2005-06-14 15:19                                     ` Sean Bruno
2005-06-16 14:20                                       ` Andreas Koch
2005-06-16 17:20                                         ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-16 20:53                                           ` Sean Bruno
2005-06-16 21:05                                             ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-16 21:12                                               ` Roland Dreier
2005-06-16 21:21                                                 ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-17  9:54                                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-17 16:34                                                 ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-17 16:51                                                   ` Sean Bruno
2005-06-17 17:59                                                     ` Sean Bruno
2005-06-18  7:45                                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-06-18 17:55                                                     ` Sean Bruno
2005-06-20 16:51                                                     ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-20 21:31                                                     ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-20 23:39                                                     ` Peter Buckingham
2005-06-04 15:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-06-04  6:38       ` Greg KH
2005-06-04  6:51         ` Grant Grundler
2005-06-04  7:12           ` Grant Grundler
2005-06-04  7:19           ` Greg KH
2005-06-04  6:46 ` Greg KH
2005-06-04 16:16   ` Andreas Koch

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