From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263030AbVF3T7G (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:59:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263095AbVF3T7F (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:59:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]:12140 "EHLO wproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263030AbVF3Tpk convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:45:40 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZSDlmdSy5YV9aolIS9582Za/vj7ENaanA6sIFDvXO+CmA1faoqeig/cp7pM6Y4JITre53wolTQfza1BAqyKDEXgYcfILhN15RXweqUT4j1kBzDAbl2A4dH4WXUMWBLtf570fEP6UC0BSqMREQNNqdxDcRufVHTPKlmP/2rtexSs= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:45:20 +0200 From: Diego Calleja To: mjt@nysv.org (Markus =?ISO-8859-15?Q?T=F6rnqvist?=) Cc: nikita@clusterfs.com, doug@mcnaught.org, hubert@uhoreg.ca, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, ninja@slaphack.com, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, ltd@cisco.com, gmaxwell@gmail.com, reiser@namesys.com, jgarzik@pobox.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins Message-Id: <20050630214520.5a939e62.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20050630153738.GU11013@nysv.org> References: <20050629135820.GJ11013@nysv.org> <200506291719.j5THJCSg011438@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <20050630095926.GN11013@nysv.org> <17091.60930.633968.822210@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20050630142107.GQ11013@nysv.org> <17092.3415.28856.827179@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20050630153738.GU11013@nysv.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0beta3 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:37:38 +0300, mjt@nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) escribió: > If I want to access metadata with bash, do I patch bash to support > both Gnome's and KDE's solutions? Was there one of XFCE too? > And FooBarXyzzyWM that'll want to do it's own VFS next year? The freedesktop people is already designing a common userspace VFS, take a look at http://freedesktop.org/Software/dvfs . At least it looks like there'll be a common standard, even if the standard is crappy. Apparently one of the main reasons for DVFS to exist is "POSIX is not enought for us". This approach is broken by design, having a second-class VFS separated from the main VFS (what libc functions see, etc) is wrong, IMO. The Mockup project (they try to bring a BeOS-like API to linux, I think) is something similar to DVFS but using FUSE. Take a look at http://wiki.mockup.org (currently down, google cache at http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:OnvclDCpwOwJ:wiki.mockup.org/UserSpaceVFS+mockup+wiki+VFS&hl=es&lr=&client=firefox&strip=1 )