From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261184AbVGBO7e (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:59:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261185AbVGBO7d (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:59:33 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:38587 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261184AbVGBO73 (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:59:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:59:28 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Ed Cogburn Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: reiser4 vs politics: linux misses out again Message-ID: <20050702145928.GA28201@infradead.org> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Ed Cogburn , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1120134372.42c3e4e49e610@webmail.bur.st> <20050630153326.GB24468@voodoo> <20050630160244.GV11013@nysv.org> <20050630180959.GC24468@voodoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 09:05:41AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > Assuming "fast and cool" here equates to some level of improvement to the > existing kernel, and/or new features/capabilities not currently available, > then are you saying "fast and cool" isn't good enough anymore, you now have > to be politically correct and socially popular and a master brown-noser as > well to get code into the kernel even just on an *experimental* basis? > > In reality, the implied attitude behind your statement actually *guarantees* > a fork of Linux at some point down the road if you keep stonewalling the > inclusion of something that clearly has enormous potential, because for > many people "fast and cool" IS THE DESIRED OBJECTIVE, and by saying no to > that, YOU are the one setting the stage for a fork. In fact such a fork would be a great thing. Let people play fast and loose who want to do that, and if they don't manage to break it and the feature is still cool a while later we clean it up and merge it into Linux proper.