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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: vwool@ru.mvista.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SPI
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:26:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051003162646.17F09EE8D2@adsl-69-107-32-110.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> (raw)

> >>>It'd be fine if for example your PNX controller driver worked that way
> >>>internally.  But other drivers shouldn't be forced to allocate kernel
> >>>threads when they don't need them.
> ...
> FYI in brief: for PREEMPT_RT case all the interrupt handlers are working 
> in a separate thread each unless explicitly specified otherwise.

I'm fully aware of that; not that it matters much for folk who aren't
building and deploying systems with PREEMPT_RT.


> We will definitely have less SPI busses => less kernel threads, so I 
> doubt there's a rationale in your opinion.

The rationale is simple:  you're trying to force one implementation
strategy.  Needlessly forcing one strategy, even when others may be
better (I already gave three examples), is a bad idea.  QED.  :)


> >Well "prevent" may be a bit strong, if you like hopping levels in
> >the software stack.  I don't; without such hopping (or without a
> >separate out-of-band mechanism like device tables), I don't see
> >a way to solve that problem.
>
> Aren't the tables you're suggesting also kinda out-of-band stuff?

I just described them that way; yes.  They're not layer hopping though;
they preserve the distinctions in roles and responsibilities which help
keep components from interfering with each other.

One general point is that when hardware doesn't support autoconfiguration,
something out-of-band is required to plug that hole.  In this case,
those tables can be segmented to handle SPI devices on both mainboards
and add-on boards.  Ditto for SPI controllers, but that mostly matters
for developer tools like parport adapters.

- Dave



             reply	other threads:[~2005-10-03 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-03 16:26 David Brownell [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-03  5:01 [PATCH] SPI David Brownell
2005-10-03  6:20 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-10-03  4:56 David Brownell
2005-09-30 17:59 David Brownell
2005-09-30 18:30 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-09-30 19:20 ` dpervushin
2005-09-26 11:12 SPI dmitry pervushin
2005-09-27 12:43 ` SPI Greg KH
2005-09-27 14:27   ` [spi-devel-general] SPI dmitry pervushin
2005-09-27 14:35     ` Greg KH
2005-09-27 14:49       ` dmitry pervushin
2005-09-27 14:54         ` Greg KH
2005-09-28 13:14           ` [PATCH] SPI dmitry pervushin
2005-08-08 23:07 [PATCH] spi david-b
2005-08-09  9:38 ` Mark Underwood
2005-07-10 20:01 [PATCH 3/3] kconfig: linux.pot for all arch Egry Gábor
2005-08-08  9:12 ` [PATCH] spi dmitry pervushin
2005-08-08 10:41   ` Jiri Slaby
2005-08-08 13:16   ` Mark Underwood
2005-08-08 16:41     ` dmitry pervushin
2005-08-08 18:51       ` Mark Underwood
2005-08-08 14:55   ` Greg KH
2005-08-08 17:35     ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-08-08 17:47       ` Marc Singer
2005-08-09 17:54         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-08-09 19:05           ` Marc Singer
2005-08-09 19:29             ` Andy Isaacson
2005-08-15  7:51               ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-08-08 22:58   ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-10 13:10   ` Pavel Machek

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