From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161003AbVLODd1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161004AbVLODd0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:26 -0500 Received: from MAIL.13thfloor.at ([212.16.62.50]:48351 "EHLO mail.13thfloor.at") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161003AbVLODd0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:33:24 +0100 From: Herbert Poetzl To: Bill Davidsen Cc: Rik van Riel , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , LKML , Linux-VServer ML Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] second stable release of Linux-VServer Message-ID: <20051215033324.GA15047@MAIL.13thfloor.at> Mail-Followup-To: Bill Davidsen , Rik van Riel , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , LKML , Linux-VServer ML References: <20051213185650.GA6466@MAIL.13thfloor.at> <43A0AD68.50107@tmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A0AD68.50107@tmr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 06:40:24PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Rik van Riel wrote: > >On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > >>Well, as the OpenVZ folks announced their release on LKML > >>I just decided to do similar for the Linux-VServer release, > >>so please let me know if that is not considered appropriate. > > > >Since there is a legitimate (and very popular) use case for > >virtuozzo / vserver functionality, I think it is a good > >thing to get all the code out in the open. > > > >I really hope we will get something like BSD jail functionality > >in the Linux kernel. It makes perfect sense for hosting > >environments. > > > Like many needs there are lots of solutions, none of which are perfect, > or at least without problems the competition says are important ;-) This > is one more thing to study, but it seems as though there is not an > overview of the various solutions for easy comparison. > > This list is probably incomplete: > linuxjail - BSD jail is the goal > VMware - I use this for BSD machines > xen - the last I looked ran Linux, not Windows or BSD unpatched > UML - run Linux nicely > VServer - news to me free: commercial: Virtual Machine (Emulators/Simulators): (allows for unmodified guest systems) - Bochs - VMware - QEMU - SoftPC - Hercules - VirtualPC - GXemul - UAE Para Virtualization (Hypervisor) (requires modified guest kernels, without HW support) - IBM Hypervisor - VMware ESX - Xen - TRANGO - UML Kernel Isolation (Partitioning) (does not support guest kernels at all) - Linux-VServer - Virtuozzo - FreeVPS - OpenVZ - linuxjails best, Herbert PS: please add stuff where appropriate ... (not considered to be a complete list) > > -- > -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) > "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the > last possible moment - but no longer" -me > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/