From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750903AbWAJKNG (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 05:13:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751039AbWAJKNG (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 05:13:06 -0500 Received: from unthought.net ([212.97.129.88]:45583 "EHLO unthought.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750903AbWAJKNF (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 05:13:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:13:04 +0100 From: Jakob Oestergaard To: Lee Revell Cc: Alistair John Strachan , Bernd Petrovitsch , Oliver Neukum , Robert Hancock , linux-kernel Subject: Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time Message-ID: <20060110101304.GC25514@unthought.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jakob Oestergaard , Lee Revell , Alistair John Strachan , Bernd Petrovitsch , Oliver Neukum , Robert Hancock , linux-kernel References: <5t06S-7nB-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <1136824149.5785.75.camel@tara.firmix.at> <1136824880.9957.55.camel@mindpipe> <200601100145.00044.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <1136867419.2007.56.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136867419.2007.56.camel@mindpipe> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ... > > Hell kfm is probably a hell of a lot more bloated than Nautilus and > > it's pretty fast to start first time (1-2s), and cached it's pretty > > much instantaneous (I'd say less than 400ms). Fast enough, no? > > > > I don't think it's a broken configuration, just a slow machine (600MHz > VIA C3). Windows XP screams compared to Linux on this thing. > Guys... Apples and oranges and stuff. My mother is running KDE on Linux now because (among other things) windows explorer was unbearably slow for displaying folders with image thumbnails (very large images and lots of them). Changing from an older 433MHz Celeron with too little memory to a 2.6 GHz P4 with a gig of memory was not enough. We tried quite a few things, but I ended up giving KDE on Linux (Debian, not that it matters) a try. I don't know Nautilus and I don't care - but I can say that there are definitely situations in which KDE on Linux seriously and thoroughly kicks MS butt both when it comes to simple usability and availability of "good" software, and not least when it comes to the part of usability we call "performance". Getting the job done in time - and if something takes a while to process, being able to do it in the background and letting the user use the computer meanwhile. This is not a kernel thing. There is proper desktop software out there - go use it already :) My 0.02 Euro, for what it's worth, -- / jakob