From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932214AbWAJN1f (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:27:35 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932213AbWAJN1f (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:27:35 -0500 Received: from 167.imtp.Ilyichevsk.Odessa.UA ([195.66.192.167]:43416 "HELO ilport.com.ua") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932138AbWAJN1e (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:27:34 -0500 From: Denis Vlasenko To: "D. Hazelton" Subject: Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:26:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 Cc: Andrew Morton , Yaroslav Rastrigin , andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <174467f50601082354y7ca871c7k@mail.gmail.com> <200601100933.48022.vda@ilport.com.ua> <200601100333.57301.dhazelton@enter.net> In-Reply-To: <200601100333.57301.dhazelton@enter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601101526.24786.vda@ilport.com.ua> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:33, D. Hazelton wrote: > On Tuesday 10 January 2006 02:33, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > > > Andrew, I think this is a rare (on lkml at least) case when guy > > does not want to participate in development in a Linux way > > but wants to just pay for development instead: > > "I want this to work good under Linux. I want to pay > > up to to whoever will agree to do that. Anybody?" > > > > Do not dismiss him lightly. There are LOTS of people which aren't > > hackish at all. An order of magniture more than 'us' computer geeks. > > M$ is successful because it uses this resource. > > We may want to think how can we use it too. > > > > No, I don't think you, or someone else on this list can efficiently > > use it, but distros, being more commercially oriented, maybe can. > > This is true. The types of bounties I have seen in OS development do not > usually reach much beyond $500. If distro's were to get behind this and start > offering bounties of large sums for _working_ code for hardware there might > be a response. I meant a different thing. Distro is a commercial entity. Users can buy services from businesses. "Write (or fix) me a driver" is a service. People inclined to just pay for code instead of helping with coding may have greater success talking to distros. Of course, distros then will hire someone from lkml crowd to actually do it. If there will be enough of cash flow from such requests, this can becode somebody's full time job. -- vda