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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Paolo Ornati <ornati@fastwebnet.it>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: [SCHED] wrong priority calc - SIMPLE test case
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:32:01 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200601131232.01846.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601131213.14832.kernel@kolivas.org>

On Friday 13 January 2006 12:13, Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Saturday 31 December 2005 00:52, Paolo Ornati wrote:
> > WAS: [SCHED] Totally WRONG prority calculation with specific test-case
> > (since 2.6.10-bk12)
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/27/114/index.html
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:26:58 +1100
> >
> > Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
> > > The issue is that the scheduler interactivity estimator is a state
> > > machine and can be fooled to some degree, and a cpu intensive task that
> > > just happens to sleep a little bit gets significantly better priority
> > > than one that is fully cpu bound all the time. Reverting that change is
> > > not a solution because it can still be fooled by the same process
> > > sleeping lots for a few seconds or so at startup and then changing to
> > > the cpu mostly-sleeping slightly behaviour. This "fluctuating"
> > > behaviour is in my opinion worse which is why I removed it.
> >
> > Trying to find a "as simple as possible" test case for this problem
> > (that I consider a BUG in priority calculation) I've come up with this
> > very simple program:
>
> Hi Paolo.
>
> Can you try the following patch on 2.6.15 please? I'm interested in how
> adversely this affects interactive performance as well as whether it helps
> your test case.

I should make it clear. This patch _will_ adversely affect interactivity 
because your test case desires that I/O bound tasks get higher priority, and 
this patch will do that. This means that I/O bound tasks will be more 
noticeable now. The question is how much do we trade off one for the other. 
We almost certainly are biased a little too much on the interactive side on 
the mainline kernel at the moment.

Cheers,
Con

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-13  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-27 18:09 [SCHED] Totally WRONG prority calculation with specific test-case (since 2.6.10-bk12) Paolo Ornati
2005-12-27 21:48 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-27 23:26   ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-28 11:01     ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-28 11:19       ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-28 11:35         ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-28 17:23           ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-28 17:39             ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-30 13:52     ` [SCHED] wrong priority calc - SIMPLE test case Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31  2:06       ` Peter Williams
2005-12-31 10:34         ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 10:52           ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 11:12             ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-31 13:44             ` Peter Williams
2005-12-31 16:31               ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 22:04                 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-31  8:13       ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-31 11:00         ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 15:11         ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 16:37           ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-31 17:24             ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 17:42               ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-01 11:39             ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-02  9:15               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-02  9:50                 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-09 11:11                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-09 15:52                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-09 16:08                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-09 18:14                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-09 20:00                     ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-09 20:23                       ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-10  7:08                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-10 12:07                         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-10 12:56                           ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-10 13:01                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-10 13:53                               ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-10 15:18                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-13  1:13       ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13  1:32         ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-01-13 10:46         ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-13 10:51           ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13 13:01             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-13 14:34               ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13 16:15                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-14  2:05                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-14  2:56                     ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-27 23:59   ` [SCHED] Totally WRONG prority calculation with specific test-case (since 2.6.10-bk12) Peter Williams
2005-12-28 10:20     ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-28 13:38       ` Peter Williams
2005-12-28 19:45         ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-29  3:13         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-29  3:35           ` Peter Williams
2005-12-29  8:11             ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-27 16:57 [SCHED] wrong priority calc - SIMPLE test case Con Kolivas
2006-01-27 20:06 ` MIke Galbraith
2006-01-27 23:18   ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-28  0:01     ` Peter Williams
2006-01-28  3:43     ` MIke Galbraith

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