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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Bryan O'Sullivan" <bos@pathscale.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, openib-general@openib.org
Subject: Re: RFC: ipath ioctls and their replacements
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:57:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060119225716.GB27689@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1137649988.25584.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 09:53:08PM -0800, Bryan O'Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:39 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > Ok, that's fair enough.  But if you want to do something like ptys, then
> > why not just have your own filesystem for this driver?
> 
> If you think it's appropriate to implement a new filesystem to replace a
> single ioctl that returns two integers, we can probably do that, but
> more realistically, the GETPORT ioctl can probably live a long and
> untroubled life as another netlink message.

Well it only takes about 250 lines to make a new fs these days, but a
single netlink message would probably be smaller :)

> > You are just making your own type of special interface up as you
> > go, so the complexity is also there (this complexity would normally be
> > in some core code, which I am hoping that your code will turn into for
> > other devices of the same type, right?)
> 
> The most important chunk of likely common code I can see at the moment
> is the stuff for bodging user page mappings that we got hammered over
> already.  The drivers/infiniband/ tree already has code that does
> something like this, and a few other not-yet-in-tree network drivers
> that support RDMA have similar needs, too.

The RDMA-loving people need to get together and hammer out a proposal
that the network people can laugh at and shoot down all at once :)

Ok, maybe not shoot down, but they do need to get together and come up
with some kind of solution, add-hok implementations in a bunch of
different drivers, in a bunch of different ways is not the proper thing
to do, no matter _how_ different the hardware works at the lower levels.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-19 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-19  0:43 RFC: ipath ioctls and their replacements Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19  0:48 ` David S. Miller
2006-01-19  1:14   ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19  1:17     ` David S. Miller
2006-01-19  5:17       ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19  5:43         ` Greg KH
2006-01-19  0:53 ` Greg KH
2006-01-19  1:17   ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19  2:54     ` Greg KH
2006-01-19  2:57 ` Greg KH
2006-01-19  3:49   ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-19  4:03     ` Greg KH
2006-01-19  5:02   ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19  5:39     ` Greg KH
2006-01-19  5:53       ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19 22:57         ` Greg KH [this message]
2006-01-19 23:44           ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-20  0:02             ` [openib-general] " Sean Hefty
2006-01-19  8:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-19  8:39   ` David S. Miller
2006-02-24 20:19     ` [PATCH 1/1] Topology c fix Zachary Amsden
2006-02-25  0:17       ` Andrew Vasquez
2006-01-19 16:29   ` RFC: ipath ioctls and their replacements Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19 18:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-19 18:50       ` [openib-general] " Sean Hefty
2006-01-19 18:55         ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19 20:31           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-19 21:53             ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19 21:08           ` Sean Hefty
2006-01-19 21:52             ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19 18:50       ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-19 20:29         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-19 20:47           ` [openib-general] " Steve Wise
2006-01-19 22:13           ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-21  4:40   ` Roland Dreier
2006-01-25 22:32 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-25 22:43   ` [openib-general] " Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-01-25 22:55     ` Bryan O'Sullivan

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