From: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
jgarzik@pobox.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule SHAPER for removal
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:47:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060122174707.GC1008@kvack.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060121004848.GM31803@stusta.de>
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:48:48AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Do we really have to wait the three years between stable Debian releases
> for removing an obsolete driver that has always been marked as
> EXPERIMENTAL?
>
> Please be serious.
I am completely serious. The traditional cycle of obsolete code that works
and is not causing a maintenence burden is 2 major releases -- one release
during which the obsolete feature spews warnings on use, and another
development cycle until it is actually removed. That's at least 3 years,
which is still pretty short compared to distro cycles.
There seems to be a lot of this disease of removing code for the sake of
removal lately, and it's getting to the point of being really annoying. If
the maintainer of the code in question isn't pushing for its removal, I see
no need to rush the process too much, especially when the affected users
aren't even likely to see the feature being marked obsolete since they don't
troll the source code looking for things that break setups.
-ben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-22 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-19 2:11 [2.6 patch] schedule SHAPER for removal Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 20:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-19 21:57 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-21 0:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-22 17:47 ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2006-01-22 18:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-22 18:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-01-22 21:21 ` Dave Jones
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-11 0:37 [2.6 patch] drivers/net/{,wireless/}Kconfig: remove dead URL Adrian Bunk
2006-01-11 0:46 ` David Woodhouse
2006-01-11 0:53 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-11 1:58 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-13 14:13 ` [2.6 patch] schedule SHAPER for removal Adrian Bunk
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20060122174707.GC1008@kvack.org \
--to=bcrl@kvack.org \
--cc=akpm@osdl.org \
--cc=alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
--cc=bunk@stusta.de \
--cc=jgarzik@pobox.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).